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cristodelaroca
Mar 23, 2006, 5:24 PM
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after watching a deadly fall in a solo climb i wouldn't do it
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tradmanclimbs
Mar 23, 2006, 6:00 PM
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Crimpagno STFU :lol: :lol:
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omerdimsum
Mar 23, 2006, 6:24 PM
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Enjoyment, including within climbing, is mostly subjective.
Personally, I often enjoy roping up or bouldering with the types of climbers who occasionally solo, rather than the types of climbers who only pull on plastic, or wear the latest/greatest climbing gear but never really push the gear (or themselves) to truer limits, or those who never spend time in bigger mountains, or those who leave the crag early to do laundry and post on rockclimbing.com
I guess at times I see a lack of authenticity in our sport. Argue with me if you want; however my views are my own and to me subjectively resonate as truth.
I see experienced climbers who sometimes solo as being truer to the core essence of climbing. I also see soloing as being, at times, a tool for moving fast or improving a situation in the mountains. However, if one is spraying about the solos or getting in above their head than I am disinterested.
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organic
Mar 23, 2006, 6:28 PM
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In reply to: Hey I'm looking for climbing partners in the salt lake city area. I have a lot of time on my hands and need people to climb with. I'm available to cimb everyday. I'm a 5.10 sport leader and can usually get 5.9 trad clean, I can follow up to 5.11- pretty consistently on either sport or trad routes. Anyway, the grades don't matter, i just wanna go climbing. Drop me a line. Ryan ski_n_scale@hotmail.com 801-856-7306 |
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duppyc
Mar 23, 2006, 6:55 PM
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I free solo poop almost every morning...its not to dangerous, but, very, very pure.
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dirtineye
Mar 23, 2006, 7:00 PM
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Not again, dear non-existent lord, this topic has been beaten to death long ago.
Someone lock this thread before a bunch of idiots surface, or is it already too late?
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rockguide
Mar 24, 2006, 6:30 AM
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In reply to: hey, this thread really resonates with me because i've totally taken up russian roulette over the last couple of weeks. (snip)
Hah. I bet you play with a revolver. Real men play russian roulette with a magazine fed pistol. Yeah it is only one round in a ten round magazine compared to one round in a six round revolver, but there is something about the spring....
:lol:
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james_climber
Mar 24, 2006, 6:42 AM
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i feel the same about the subject
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lei514
Mar 25, 2006, 7:43 AM
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People don't understand each other's points.
1) Soloing is a part of climbing. Some people never do it, some people enjoy it. Don't call other people's hobbies stupid.
2) Soloing has added risk to climbing. It doesn't matter if you can climb 5.15, an accident like a broken hold, snake bite, rainy weather, etc can kill you. This chance is a lot more than the 0% the dumb soloists claim.
Basically, some people are willing to take a small chance of dying for some extra fun in the sport. Calling other people's fun 'stupid' or thinking you'll have no chance of dying are both incorrect.
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patto
Mar 25, 2006, 1:42 PM
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I'm don't like solo climbing and I wont ever do it.
But that said I bet everybody here has soloed something. By that I mean where on slip could mean serious injury or death. I have had walk ins to climbs that fit this description. I have climbed tall trees like this. I have climbed near verticle rock with one leg in plaster and I still wouldn't call it soloing.
Soloing is a matter of degrees and different people have different levels of skill and confort. That said no matter what your skill if your putting you life on small toe hold then I think that is stupid.
I think many climbers are fairly timid beasts. Despite the absurdity I think many climbers are actually quite risk adverse people. This is emphasised by the many veterens to whom a lead fall is a rarity. However there are a few adrenelin junkies that have found their way into climbing and thus soloing exists.
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helpimstuck
Mar 25, 2006, 4:58 PM
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ive free soloed up to 5.11c its not really good to fall once I fell on a easy 5.9 cause a friend was top roped and his shoe got loose so I went back for him and he fell knocking me down the 20 ft but it was invigorating. I do believe it is the purest however that doesnt me go out there and freesoloing everything you see know your limits know the rock quality after being climbing for a year now I mainly use my gear since I can afford it for the time being but that doesnt mean that I dont solo I consider it much better to run the route on a rope before you try it freesoloing... so I consider it ppl who are lookin for that extra rush enjoy this and ppl that just dont have the money for gear.
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claramie
Mar 25, 2006, 5:06 PM
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I don't like a 5% chance of death considering that I climb way more than 100 routes every year. I also prefer climbing to my max. I'd rather try a hard 12 or easy 13 and pitch off mid-crux than walk 10s all day.
I won't tell you what is good or not good for you, but this is what works for me.
CL
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chitlinsconcarne
Mar 25, 2006, 9:07 PM
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In reply to: .. A bird s--- in your eye, down you go and splat..
my climbing career in a nutshell.
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clayman
Mar 25, 2006, 10:37 PM
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In reply to: Clayman, obviously you are Not and ice climber :D I led 110 meters of grade 5 ice today and i can assure you that is was not nearly as safe as many of my solos 8^) If you solo with the right mentality and within your limits it is as safe as leading and most often safer than hard leads on scetch gear. You do sound a bit like a top ropeing, gym climbing wanker 8^)
WTF? I don't give a rats ass if someone solos or not. If that's what you like to do, fine, go do it. Read my freakin' post douche bag, I said absolutely nothing about NOT SOLOING. I don't want to be to hard on the OP but he sounded a little like, "Yo, I like am gonna solo that badass rock over there, bra, it's like 5.6, I'm 100% all the time on that easy POS". He may not be this way, however if he is, it's trouble.
Top-roper? Try reading my GD profile, crumb-muncher!
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tradmanclimbs
Mar 25, 2006, 11:39 PM
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Nice rant clayman :D Your post pretty much sounded pretty judgemental against soloing. whenever I get that kind of attitude it usualy comes from the safty Nazis most of whome can't climb their way out of a paper bag :roll: Rant on puss nuts :twisted:
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tradmanclimbs
Mar 25, 2006, 11:49 PM
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"There's nothing self-righteous about wanting to live." Clayman. This is the statement of yours that set me off. You certainly sound like you believe soling is a death wish wich tells me that you know nothing about soloing. now that i have re read your post I stick to my guns. Shove your rant where the sun dont shine you plastic pulling wanker :D :D
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ski_n_scale
Mar 26, 2006, 12:04 AM
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Wow, so I just watched Return2Sender last night and I got super inspired by the free soloing segments. Watching Renan's on-sight free solo of the N. Sixshooter was especially inspirational. It's such a hard, beautiful line but is completely in reason and do-able for a 5.13 crack climber. It's sooo bad ass. Not to mention the amazing shots from the heli.
I could also really relate to Reardon and was continually impressed by his level of soloing. I liked what he said about focus (his "8 foot shell") and free soloing for only yourself.
"You free solo for you. If you solo for anybody else you're stupid and you WILL die" -Reardon (or something to that affect)
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shnobe
Mar 26, 2006, 12:11 AM
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While we’re on this soloing subject again this may be a good time to ask… what kind of helmet should I use when free solo?
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clayman
Mar 26, 2006, 2:38 AM
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In reply to: While we’re on this soloing subject again this may be a good time to ask… what kind of helmet should I use when free solo?
Funny you should ask that, because there is a recent picture of A. Huber in Alpinist (12?) where he is free soloing with a helmet. I don't get it.
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stymingersfink
Mar 26, 2006, 3:00 AM
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In reply to: Funny you should ask that, because there is a recent picture of A. Huber in Alpinist (12?) where he is free soloing with a helmet. I don't get it.
...you don't get it?
WTF?
How many times have you been on the sharp end and had something fall from above and clock you on your dome? Now, can you imagine having to deal with that sans rope and helmet?!
Besides, if you did fall, at least you stand a better chance of having an open casket.
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tradmanclimbs
Mar 26, 2006, 3:01 AM
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naturaly a plastic pulling wanker wouldn't get the helmet while soloing thing :lol: :D Alex wore the helmet on that solo because the cliff he was on is notorious for rockfall. I learned this lesson the hard way in seneca a few years ago. left the lid in the van and cruised to the top of south peak. Soloing so I don't need a helmet, Right? Wrong!! Bunch of plastic pulling wankers dropped rocks on me durring the rap :shock: I have done that rap at least 50 times and never dropped a rock :roll: I would never climb at seneca without a helmet but since i was soloing I changed my routine. No autopsy no foul but I would now think twice about soloing without a helmet at a crag with significant rockfall hazards.
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rockguide
Mar 26, 2006, 3:09 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: .. A bird s--- in your eye, down you go and splat.. my climbing career in a nutshell.
:lol: :lol: :lol: You just made this thread for me. Trophy.
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clayman
Mar 26, 2006, 3:29 AM
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In reply to: naturaly a plastic pulling wanker wouldn't get the helmet while soloing thing :lol: :D Alex wore the helmet on that solo because the cliff he was on is notorious for rockfall. I learned this lesson the hard way in seneca a few years ago. left the lid in the van and cruised to the top of south peak. Soloing so I don't need a helmet, Right? Wrong!! Bunch of plastic pulling wankers dropped rocks on me durring the rap :shock: I have done that rap at least 50 times and never dropped a rock :roll: I would never climb at seneca without a helmet but since i was soloing I changed my routine. No autopsy no foul but I would now think twice about soloing without a helmet at a crag with significant rockfall hazards.
you are a DORK! :lol:
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ak_powder_monkey
Mar 26, 2006, 4:58 AM
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holy shit that guys stupid and dead :shock:
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