Mar 12, 2007, 10:50 PM
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I am guessing that our demographic will show that as a group we are better educated than many other groups sharing a specialized non-academic interest.
I climb with people who stopped at high school and make more money than I do (or will graduate when they get to be 17 or 18), up to medical researchers who make waaaay more money than I do.
Sadly climbers are remarkably entirely made of middleclass to upper middleclass. This data alone should show that the majority of climbers either have post secondary, or have the oportunity to go to post secondary.
Not saying that we are all wealthy, but climbing generally requires a combination of enough disposable income to afford the gear and take the time off to enjoy the sport.
With that being said, I clawed my way through Tech School, but with climbing have surrounded myself with brilliant minds; Doctors, Proffesors, Ministers, and Engineers.
So lets not toot our own horn about how much more educated we are than say the local basketball club, rather lets identify that we have had better breaks and have taken advantage of them.
Not saying that we are all wealthy, but climbing generally requires a combination of enough disposable income to afford the gear and take the time off to enjoy the sport.
I would have to agree. Despite the seeming popularity of the "dirtbag" image, most "dirtbags" are "poor" more by choice than necessity if that makes any sense. I know very few people through all the years of climbing that I would classify as anything below "middle class"
I am in school....again. The first time around, well, lets just say my hubby and I started out family a little sooner than we planned. Now that the kiddos are a little older I am back in school. Hope to have a dual degree in special education and elementary education and in time will get a masters in school psychology.
I have voted for "Less than 4 yrs college or specialized training"
I finished college.
I would like to add that I don't think education has anything to do with climbing or anything particular in live. I have met people that finished university and are still morons without any good manners and think they are Mr. or Mrs big shot cause they finish this or that school.
(This post was edited by tradrenn on Mar 14, 2007, 10:45 PM)
I have friends who have finished college with B.S.'s and abandoned them in favor of a climbing lifestyle. If I had no debt, you can bet your ass I would do the same.
I have voted for "Less than 4 yrs college or specialized training"
I finished collage. I would like to add that I don't think education has anything to do with climbing or anything particular in live. I have met people that finished university and are still morons without any good manners and think they are Mr. or Mrs big shot cause they finish this or that school.
Do you think you are going to get a good view of the climbing spectrum from this website???????
Dirtbags without money to buy a computer. High school drop outs with a fear of computers. Climbers too busy to waste time on computers. These are all examples of people not included in your poll.
I would bet that 90% of the people frequenting this site do it from work or school. If they are doing it from work, then they have a desk job that implies college education. If they are in school, then I would guess they are/will be more educated by that standard of measure.
Do you think you are going to get a good view of the climbing spectrum from this website???????
With respect, what would I do with the whole truth if I could get it? This allows those of us at rc.com to say, "Ain't we a bunch a smart folks?" I know I did.
The poll is shifted even more to the high end than I expected. Ain't we a bunch a smart folks?
My grandfather would have said "smart fellers" and swapped the leading consonants on the two words.
Isn't it funny how much power a piece of paper can have over so many lives?
Honestly, I have seen so many smart people without the paper that I try to ignore those that mention it. Usually the people that have to say it are the ones you want to avoid.
oldsalt, sorry I missed the point of the thread. All that education obviously isn't helping me a bit.
I have an engineering degree and yet I am amazed with all the climbing how I managed.
Even now, with a job and little debt, I keep wondering whether I should just drop it and go wander, climb and see whats out there. Theres always time for a job and a master's degree later right?
I will probably spend a year thinking about it then just do it one day....
I would like to add that I don't think education has anything to do with climbing or anything particular in live. I have met people that finished university and are still morons without any good manners and think they are Mr. or Mrs big shot cause they finish this or that school.
I agree. Some of the most brilliant people I've encountered in my life have been without formal education; some of the stupidest, most ignorant people held PhDs.
Not that I would turn down a PhD in climbing. Ooh! Doctor of Climbing. I likey!
i too concur. the climber group, as a group, definitely has more of whom who have done better. and yes, by better i mean less worthless, less of a failure. there also ought to be a line clearly drawn within the group, too, so we can better distinguish those who are worth more from the rest of the riffraff and parasites who are dragging down the climber group as a whole, to further improve the group. able to see the worthless for what they are, sentimental sentiments aside, as we all know, is the important first step for any group to pare off its useless parts, its deadweights, like the malignant tumors that they are, for the overall good of the group. it's like scraping the barnacles off of a seafaring whale, restoring its streamline smoothness, so it can make even better time on its seasonal migration, hence more time in its breeding waters, hence even more whales, hence improvement of the whale group as a whole. so yeah, for the climber group, maybe a line right above those subsisting on Ramen. those who can afford the more upscale Top Ramen, on the other hand, that's definitely a step up and a sure sign of having achieved something. yeah, draw the line there
anyway, would love to go on, but i gotta run. i've an appointment at 3:00 to achieve, then another at 3:15 to succeed
I am guessing that our demographic will show that as a group we are better educated than many other groups sharing a specialized non-academic interest.
I would be surprised, considering that fewer than one person in four on this website knows the difference between the words "your" and "you're."
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