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Poll: Useless Crap you Climb With
Headlamp for those quater-days 30 / 27%
Leaver-Biners, 25' trash webbing and old nuts - good planning or a harbringer? 9 / 8%
Recommended Rack size -- TIMES TWO!! :D Nothing more fun than manteling onto that belay ledge with enough gear ready for the next lead! 45 / 40%
Jacket, gloves and thick socks for those ever-so-prone to changing 70 degree days in southern california 6 / 5%
Beer. 23 / 20%
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quiteatingmysteak


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I think were all guilty.


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is a qater day = a quarter day? if so, then none of the above. otherwise, If it's over 10 pitches, I usually take my headlamp just in case.


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How the fuck is beer useless?

Well?


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rymep wrote:
How the fuck is beer useless?

Well?

^^^
I second the above.


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damn good question!


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knieveltech wrote:
rymep wrote:
How the fuck is beer useless?

Well?

^^^
I second the above.

Third.

Beer is NEVER useless.

Ever.


quiteatingmysteak


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climbingaggie03 wrote:
is a qater day = a quarter day? if so, then none of the above. otherwise, If it's over 10 pitches, I usually take my headlamp just in case.



OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NEVER CLIMBED IN QUATAR! ARAB COUNTRIES HAVE GOOD CLIMBS TOO!


typo....?


Something is inevitable when you climb with beer - it gets warm.


A cold one is a good one, but a room temperature one, or a slightly warm one, is not a one at all. I would not wish that on my worst enemy, no sir.


Besides, all the REALLY sweet spots to climb at have bars so close, taht are so undercrowded... I highly suggest Cafe Aroma in Idyllwild!


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Last time I was on The Vampire I took swigs of whiskey all the way up the flake from a hip flask... not beer but close!

Josh


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the biggest useless carp I have seen myself is when climbers with big BA*Ls call 911 and cry like a pu**Y asking for help cause;

1- they forgot their light, got to dark and they can find the rap bolt

2- number 1 plus it got cold cause they had no jacket to keep themselves warm.


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I fund a cup of coffee in the morning greatly cuts down on the amount of useless crap i carry up a route.


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ryanb wrote:
I fund a cup of coffee in the morning greatly cuts down on the amount of useless crap i carry up a route.
Hmm, it usually takes me two cups and a cigarette...


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The poll would be better if you could pick multiple answers.

On multipitch routes I always carry a headlamp, even if I expect to get down really early. I also carry an emergency biner with the usual assortment of stuff that rarely gets used. It's useless until you really need it, eh?

I'm not a drinker, and I'm not into carrying a massive rack. 2 out of 4 isn't bad. Edit: Forgot about the socks and gloves on a beautiful day. Make that 2 out of 5.


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My climbing partner...he drinks all the beer while I am on lead.

JB


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
climbingaggie03 wrote:
is a qater day = a quarter day? if so, then none of the above. otherwise, If it's over 10 pitches, I usually take my headlamp just in case.



OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NEVER CLIMBED IN QUATAR! ARAB COUNTRIES HAVE GOOD CLIMBS TOO!


typo....?

You still spelled it wrong....it's Qatar.

There are ways of keeping beer cold, even on multipitch.

d.


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My chemistry professor used to always tell the story of how, during the war, they used to keep their beer cold by swinging it around in a wet sock. It always made him sound pretty crusty.

You probably have to watch it when you open it...


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I've climbed with some useless partners. Wink


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I should probably leave my hiking sword with the packs, eh?

DMT


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reno wrote:
knieveltech wrote:
rymep wrote:
How the fuck is beer useless?

Well?

^^^
I second the above.

Third.


Fourth!!!

Beer is NEVER useless.

Ever.


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dingus wrote:

I should probably leave my hiking sword with the packs, eh?

DMT

my friends used to tell me that until one day, we got attacked by the black night. I was successfully able to fend him off with my sword, they dont give me shit about it anymore.


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
A cold one is a good one, but a room temperature one, or a slightly warm one, is not a one at all. I would not wish that on my worst enemy, no sir.

Major props for channeling Strong Bad


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where's the clothes option? Wink


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
A cold one is a good one, but a room temperature one, or a slightly warm one, is not a one at all. I would not wish that on my worst enemy, no sir.

As one of my wall partners used to say, at bivys, warm beer is better than no beer.


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[quote "marc801 As one of my wall partners used to say, at bivys, warm beer is better than no beer.
Amen to that.

I started carrying a small prussic loop after my AMGA TRSM course. I use it to back up my brake hand on multipitch raps. I could just use a sling, but they are too long to put on below my ATC, and I get annoyed trying to tie knots in it and all, so now I just carry a prussic cord that is the right length, but that's definitely something I don't need.

I do agree that some people carry alot of crap that they don't need. last year a buddy of mine and I did snake dike and decided to go ultra light since the approach was so long (we walked a total of 17 miles cause there was a little extra, and we got lost for a while on the approach) and the climb was only 8 pitches. We didn't take belay devices, helmets, he climbed in a swiss seat, I carred all the climbing gear in the lid of my pack on my hip belt. I don't think we were any less safe than someone who took more gear, and it was easier for us cause we had less to carry.


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nothing. useless crap weighs you down and slows you down.


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vegastradguy wrote:
nothing. useless crap weighs you down and slows you down.

Especially on some of the long approaches in Red Rocks, last time I was there it seems like we hiked an hour each way nearly every day.


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In reply to:
the biggest useless carp I have seen myself is . . .

Lose the fish - and make sure to use lots of red and green arrows. Tongue


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climbingaggie03 wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
nothing. useless crap weighs you down and slows you down.

Especially on some of the long approaches in Red Rocks, last time I was there it seems like we hiked an hour each way nearly every day.

yeah, 45-90 minutes is about average for anything in the canyons.


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dingus wrote:
I should probably leave my hiking sword with the packs, eh?

DMT

...and the shield.

Me? I'm more of a longbow man. Stave has its uses too.


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climbingaggie03 wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
nothing. useless crap weighs you down and slows you down.

Especially on some of the long approaches in Red Rocks, last time I was there it seems like we hiked an hour each way nearly every day.

Always always always cary a headlamp, even if you think you'll only be out for a few hours starting in the morning. You really do never know.

Also unless it is the peak of summer (where the nights only get down to 90 degrees) always bring something warm to put on. I always have a knit cap and a fleece at a min.


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zeke_sf wrote:
dingus wrote:
I should probably leave my hiking sword with the packs, eh?

DMT

...and the shield.

Me? I'm more of a longbow man. Stave has its uses too.

People are like, asking me to climb with them because I am pretty good with a bo staff.


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Carnage wrote:
dingus wrote:

I should probably leave my hiking sword with the packs, eh?

DMT

my friends used to tell me that until one day, we got attacked by the black night. I was successfully able to fend him off with my sword, they dont give me shit about it anymore.

I just about wet myself when I read this... thank you for making my day!


I'm guilty of always taking twice the amount of gear required to a crag. I don't actually climb with it.... but I take it with me just in case.


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desertwanderer81 wrote:
climbingaggie03 wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
nothing. useless crap weighs you down and slows you down.

Especially on some of the long approaches in Red Rocks, last time I was there it seems like we hiked an hour each way nearly every day.

Always always always cary a headlamp, even if you think you'll only be out for a few hours starting in the morning. You really do never know.

Also unless it is the peak of summer (where the nights only get down to 90 degrees) always bring something warm to put on. I always have a knit cap and a fleece at a min.

Maybe the headlamp, although I climb alot without my head lamp and I haven't had any problems yet.

It's ideas like this though, Always carry.... anything, that are what you have to get rid of to really go light and fast, it's more of a mindset than anything, and when in red rocks, I do often carry a headlamp, but you have to question everything.


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Always always always cary a headlamp, even if you think you'll only be out for a few hours starting in the morning. You really do never know.

the petzl e-lite is a nice thing to have in this case. i keep it packed with my 4oz golite shell, which stays clipped to my harness at all times. 5oz of the best insurance out there.

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Also unless it is the peak of summer (where the nights only get down to 90 degrees) always bring something warm to put on. I always have a knit cap and a fleece at a min.

actually, i'll disagree here to a point. in decent weather (spring and fall), if the low temps arent that cool- a wind proof shell is adequate. they provide a surprising amount of warmth in a pinch, but take up little space and weigh next to nothing.


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dingus wrote:
I should probably leave my hiking sword with the packs, eh?

DMT

Wouldn't this be exactly the time to trot out the the garage door spring picture for another lap...


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The Petzl e-lite, two short prussik loops, and a small knife have taken up permanent residence in my chalk bag's zipper pocket. Just leaving them there seems to be the only way I can be sure I won't forget them, but this means they accompany me up fearsome 40' routes in the gym as well as 90' routes at Ragged and 180' routes in the Gunks.

The light has definitely justified its permanent residence status more than once (including in the gym after lightning knocked out the lights), I've never needed the prussik loops, and the knife has been employed once every several years.

Now if you wanted to broaden the question to "useless crap you hike to the bottom of the climb with,'' I could expand on the subject considerably.


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Avocados. I love em.

I did Snake Dike with one in my pack and when my partner saw it, he said "Are you nuts? You know there's a pit in there, right? That's like 2 ounces you have to carry out!"

Me: Have some avocado.

Partner: Mmm. Ok, this is really good.


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fearofheights wrote:
Avocados. I love em.

I did Snake Dike with one in my pack and when my partner saw it, he said "Are you nuts? You know there's a pit in there, right? That's like 2 ounces you have to carry out!"

Me: Have some avocado.

Partner: Mmm. Ok, this is really good.


Thats classic! After having recently finished that route, Yes I can say 2 ounces I would sweat over, and yes also, after those 1000' of slabs I would sure appreciate having carried it.


I just recently took a can of Peach Halves for a ride up Intersection rock this last weekend. He had a good time, until I eated it.


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xtremst80 wrote:
reno wrote:
knieveltech wrote:
rymep wrote:
How the fuck is beer useless?

Well?

^^^
I second the above.

Third.


Fourth!!!

Beer is NEVER useless.

Ever.
Yes, yes it can be.

When your drunk girlfriend knocks over your bottle and it drains into the sand, it becomes pretty much useless.


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Epoch.


Just kidding Jay!


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fearofheights wrote:
Me: Have some avocado.

Partner: Mmm. Ok, this is really good.

I schlepped a bit of pizza up a long route - next time we will also bring some beer !


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notch wrote:
Epoch.


Just kidding Jay!

Hey!

I'm not that useless. Someone needs to be ropegun. Tongue


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probably your mom! she gets a lot done at the belay though... LOLCrazy


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epoch wrote:
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Epoch.


Just kidding Jay!

Hey!

I'm not that useless. Someone needs to be ropegun. Tongue
Screw rope gun, I need a beer gun. Them twist offs hurt my sensitive hands. Promise to be my beer gun and I'll never ask you to lead the hard pitches again.


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Nov 13, 2007, 4:30 AM
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notch wrote:
epoch wrote:
notch wrote:
Epoch.


Just kidding Jay!

Hey!

I'm not that useless. Someone needs to be ropegun. Tongue
Screw rope gun, I need a beer gun. Them twist offs hurt my sensitive hands. Promise to be my beer gun and I'll never ask you to lead the hard pitches again.

So, you're sending the project this weekend?


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For beer? Yes.


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You're a cheap date.


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My bar tab says otherwise, but I guess we'll find out on Saturday. See you then.


losbill


Nov 14, 2007, 2:23 AM
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Beer Gun!?!?!

Did I hear my name being called?

The heck with the Gunks. I guess I'm headed north this weekend!

Useless crap? I once saw someone at Rumney at the PL Wall with a screamer clipped to their harness!?!?


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Nov 14, 2007, 3:04 PM
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I once saw a group of young bucks toproping at Cooper's Rocks in WV. We were in an area with a casual walk to the road that might take five minutes, yet the majority of them had headlamps strapped to their helmets. It was midmorning in the middle of summer. Most lines there top out under 35', so the risk of being benighted is pretty low.

They might have been preparing for a lengthy rescue operation. They repeatedly rigged single-point anchors, dangerously cross-loaded biners, etc. Despite several warnings and friendly offers to help, they were sure they were getting along fine.


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My tonsils and appendix


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sticky_fingers wrote:
My tonsils and appendix

You could probably get by with one kidney, as well. That would be a great way to drop weight for the next sick project. V2 here I come!


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Nov 14, 2007, 4:21 PM
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markc wrote:
sticky_fingers wrote:
My tonsils and appendix

You could probably get by with one kidney, as well. That would be a great way to drop weight for the next sick project. V2 here I come!

left testicle...

j-


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flint wrote:
markc wrote:
sticky_fingers wrote:
My tonsils and appendix

You could probably get by with one kidney, as well. That would be a great way to drop weight for the next sick project. V2 here I come!

left testicle...

j-

It might be more useful than you think. If you think you don't need it, maybe you can hollow it out and use it as a "front" chalk bag...maybe put a brush in there, or some bus fare...If it's a weight issue, just punch holes in it


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I've climbed with a guy who carries 20 draws, most of them four footers, up every pitch. And in addition to his large set of cams, he also carries four OP Link Cams. Those thing are like 5 pounds each!

And he's no noob, either, he climbs a ton!

As for me, only thing I can think of is: I carry more nuts than I usually need (doubles on the small end). But hey, they're light.

GO


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Nov 20, 2007, 2:17 AM
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holy crap imagine if there was snow that, when boiled, melted into beer. holy crap I just creamed my pants


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