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chossmonkey
Jul 30, 2008, 4:44 PM
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nore am I that excited about PTFTWs
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the_climber
Jul 30, 2008, 4:48 PM
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chossmonkey wrote: nore am I that excited about PTFTWs
Rrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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sungam
Jul 30, 2008, 4:52 PM
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chossmonkey wrote: There isn't that much Trango gear I'm that excited about.
Never used any of their other gear, though.
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chossmonkey
Jul 30, 2008, 5:01 PM
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sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: There isn't that much Trango gear I'm that excited about. I'm all over the max cams- I have one (size 2, I think) and it rocks. They just have a nice feel to them. Never used any of their other gear, though.
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chossmonkey
Jul 30, 2008, 5:02 PM
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So WMD....
What side of the slide are you on?
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chossmonkey
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the_climber wrote: chossmonkey wrote: nore am I that excited about PTFTWs Rrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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sungam
Jul 30, 2008, 5:07 PM
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chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: There isn't that much Trango gear I'm that excited about. I'm all over the max cams- I have one (size 2, I think) and it rocks. They just have a nice feel to them. Never used any of their other gear, though. I was thinking about getting one of those, but if they walk at all they are worthless.
Must experiment.
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chossmonkey
Jul 30, 2008, 6:59 PM
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sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: There isn't that much Trango gear I'm that excited about. I'm all over the max cams- I have one (size 2, I think) and it rocks. They just have a nice feel to them. Never used any of their other gear, though. I was thinking about getting one of those, but if they walk at all they are worthless. Hmmm, yes I've thought about that- would they super funkify themselves if they walked or I kicked them. Must experiment.
4,5,&6
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chossmonkey
Jul 30, 2008, 7:01 PM
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I'd like to know why big bros are so damn expensive now. I swear they are at least twice the price they were back in the day. It might not be a stretch to say three times
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sungam
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"Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail."
Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same.
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sungam
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chossmonkey wrote: I'd like to know why big bros are so damn expensive now. I swear they are at least twice the price they were back in the day. It might not be a stretch to say three times
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sungam
Jul 30, 2008, 7:37 PM
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Hmmm, not likely- but probably their excuse.
My theory-> not enough salez so price hike for manipulation of monopoly in a fear market.
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chossmonkey
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artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: I'd like to know why big bros are so damn expensive now. I swear they are at least twice the price they were back in the day. It might not be a stretch to say three times Maybe it's the cost of gas?
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chossmonkey
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sungam wrote: "Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail." Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same.
Max cams aren't really supposed to be a whole rack thing are they? I see then as a specialty piece.
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artm
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chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: I'd like to know why big bros are so damn expensive now. I swear they are at least twice the price they were back in the day. It might not be a stretch to say three times Maybe it's the cost of gas? They have been really expensive for a lot longer than gas has been way up. They went up quite a bit when Trango started selling them.
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chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: "Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail." Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same. I don't think I'm going to buy any more BD cams. Max cams aren't really supposed to be a whole rack thing are they? I see then as a specialty piece.
Why no camalots?
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chossmonkey
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artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: I'd like to know why big bros are so damn expensive now. I swear they are at least twice the price they were back in the day. It might not be a stretch to say three times Maybe it's the cost of gas? They have been really expensive for a lot longer than gas has been way up. They went up quite a bit when Trango started selling them. It's a speciality item so they probably don't sell a lot of them and hiked the price to cover the cost of manufacturing them still.
It seems like they should be stupid easy to make.
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chossmonkey
Jul 30, 2008, 7:54 PM
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sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: "Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail." Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same. I don't think I'm going to buy any more BD cams. Max cams aren't really supposed to be a whole rack thing are they? I see then as a specialty piece. Yeah, or maybe a suppliment to a rack, or something. (similar to the link cam). Why no camalots?
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sungam
Jul 30, 2008, 8:14 PM
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man, what DO you use then?
Luckily my rack is all HB... wait a second...
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the_climber
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chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: "Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail." Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same. I don't think I'm going to buy any more BD cams. Max cams aren't really supposed to be a whole rack thing are they? I see then as a specialty piece. Yeah, or maybe a suppliment to a rack, or something. (similar to the link cam). Why no camalots? Have to big of cam angle, heavy, made in China
That's why most of my rack is WC, and some Metolius for the cams.
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artm
Jul 30, 2008, 8:37 PM
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chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: "Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail." Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same. I don't think I'm going to buy any more BD cams. Max cams aren't really supposed to be a whole rack thing are they? I see then as a specialty piece. Yeah, or maybe a suppliment to a rack, or something. (similar to the link cam). Why no camalots? Have to big of cam angle, heavy, made in China
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the_climber
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artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: "Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail." Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same. I don't think I'm going to buy any more BD cams. Max cams aren't really supposed to be a whole rack thing are they? I see then as a specialty piece. Yeah, or maybe a suppliment to a rack, or something. (similar to the link cam). Why no camalots? Have to big of cam angle, heavy, made in China Why are you talking to the donny?
I think it's a shameless jab at upping his post count without putting a real post whore effort into it.
He might be slipping.
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sungam
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the_climber wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: chossmonkey wrote: sungam wrote: "Never allow your cam to "walk" back into the crack or rotate once it is placed. Rope drag, poor rope management, or kicking the cam as you climb by it, to name just a few possible scenarios, can all cause a MaxCam to walk or rotate into a lopsided position (Fig 4), and fail." Eeeep! I still like them, though. Might have to go back to BD all the same. I don't think I'm going to buy any more BD cams. Max cams aren't really supposed to be a whole rack thing are they? I see then as a specialty piece. Yeah, or maybe a suppliment to a rack, or something. (similar to the link cam). Why no camalots? Have to big of cam angle, heavy, made in China That's why most of my rack is WC, and some Metolius for the cams.
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Well, an update from the Dr.'s office:
Went in this afternoon and spoke with a neurologist. The general gist of the thing is this:
Sleep Deprivation.
Now, far be it from me to have the greatest sleep schedule, in fact since that ill fated morning Oct. 1 2005 I honestly haven't slept all that well with any regularity, what with the inability to self-medicate with my drug of choice, the stress of the proceedings going on, and my then-recent return to the single life. In a nutshell, my little incident last week was brought on by a severe deficit of sleep (or so we've decided). Statistically, the chances of ever having something like what happened occur again are 50:50, though if it by some quirk it DOES happen again all bets will be off.
I'll just have to take those chances. Of course, in the mean time I'll have to do what I can to stack the deck in my favor, try to get myself on some kind of regular sleep schedule and increase the quality of sleep that I DO get.
Soo... i guess I'll be off the soloing for a bit till I'm satisfied that it was a one-time event. No driving with the cruise control, no heinous gear leads in my near future either. Hell, who'm I kidding? I haven't done heinous gear leads in quite some time. 
Here's hoping it was a one-time thing. Gotta start stackin' the deck in my favor for a bit, catch up on some much needed sleep quality/quantity. Hope that's enough to settle things.
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