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i was thanking about glueing some holds on the legs of a overpass by the river on the edge oh town . a lot of guys fish and fire off guns out there so as long as i don't drill a lot of holes in the bridge i don't thank anyone will care. i was thanking of using some epoxy and cutting some rocks with a tile saw so i wont have a lot in it if they chip off.


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i was thanking about glueing some holds on the legs of a overpass by the river on the edge oh town . a lot of guys fish and fire off guns out there so as long as i don't drill a lot of holes in the bridge i don't thank anyone will care. i was thanking of using some epoxy and cutting some rocks with a tile saw so i wont have a lot in it if they chip off.


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There's really that much of a lack of climbing there?
*shudder*


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Are you asking if that's okay? Technically, it might not be, but if I were that desperate, I'd do it, but be kinda discreet about it.


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Also if people are fishing oiff the bridge don't get cought by the hook, as they reel in.


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Years ago "desperate" climbers bolted Henry Avenue Bridge in Philadelphia. They even put some climbing holds on some of the featureless sections of the bridge (roof). They drilled to place to bolts and the holds.


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gregmiles wrote:
i was thanking about glueing some holds on the legs of a overpass by the river on the edge oh town . a lot of guys fish and fire off guns out there so as long as i don't drill a lot of holes in the bridge i don't thank anyone will care. i was thanking of using some epoxy and cutting some rocks with a tile saw so i wont have a lot in it if they chip off.
YOU'RE JUST BRINGING IT DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL. HEL IZ LNGER 4 U!!!!

Actually, we sometimes climb at an old sandstone railway bridge. Its actually not too shabby, and we're actually climbing on real rock in a sence. If you're quiet about it climbing on an overpass like this wouldn't be a big deal, but I'm not sure how much fun it would be.


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the closest place to climb is the rockwall downtown $50 a pop with the kids .or an hour and a half away . i am jest looking to put up a small wall 5 min from the house. if i glue them on they can come off if needed . the spot i an looking at is sandy so i wont need a crash pad. and you cant see from the road. ps i drive a jeep so i can drive right to it.


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extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, I guess.
Just don't tell everyone about it...


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We did this on my old campus... "NC State Traverse Wall" i think its called on this site. I was with some friends... not even sure what kind of epoxy they used but we used a gun that mixed it in the tube after it came out of the original cartridges. pretty cool stuff... same type of deal you'd use for glue in bolts.

I say go for it, even if there is climbing around... it should be fun and it sounds like you could climb in the rain?


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The two types of glue I use are Hilti HY 150 which is about thirty dollars and requires a special glue gun, and Sika brand quick set anchoring adhesive which you can buy at Home Depot. The Sika uses a normal caulking gun and costs about fifteen bucks. The Sika is gray and the Hilti is tan. I would go find the Sika stuff.


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trolls DO hide out under bridges!

hahahhaapwnt


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gblauer wrote:
Years ago "desperate" climbers bolted Henry Avenue Bridge in Philadelphia. They even put some climbing holds on some of the featureless sections of the bridge (roof). They drilled to place to bolts and the holds.

That place is sweet. I had a blast there. For some reason, cars driving nearby when you're climbing decreases the experience. But cars driving overhead, while climbing, enhances the experience!


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Yea Hilti is what we used in Thailand... bad erosion there unless you glue in. The gun is pretty cool but you have to get all you're gluing done in about 20 min or else the epoxy will dy up in your mixing tube and you'll have to get another one.

Now that I type this I reallize that this was only a problem for us because I live in Thailand and we only had a few mixing tubes. I'd call it Red, but red or tan, this stuff is bomber and will keep your holds in place for at least a decade.

The stuff we used on the wall at NCSU may or may not have been Sika but it was dark grey and it used a normal gun. Holds have started falling off recently.


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sungam wrote:
extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, I guess.
Just don't tell everyone about it...

Don't tell me you never had the urge to climb the Fourth.


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There's a bridge in corvallis, oregon with holds bolted and glued under it. its kinda wet and slimy so the climbing isn't that great, and there are tons of crags an hour or less away (as well as 3 gyms), so i don't know why they ever put the effort in. but it seemed to work, and it got climbed a little by the locals.


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patmay81 wrote:
There's a bridge in corvallis, oregon with holds bolted and glued under it. its kinda wet and slimy so the climbing isn't that great, and there are tons of crags an hour or less away (as well as 3 gyms), so i don't know why they ever put the effort in. but it seemed to work, and it got climbed a little by the locals.

lunch break climbing. unless you're within walking distance of a crag, it makes sense (to me at least) to create your own.


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lunch break climbing
Isn't that what buildering is for?


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lunch break climbing
Isn't that what buildering is for?

yea but I am trying to get citizenship to another country... and I must smell or something cuz whenever I builder the cops come a runnin' and my record can't handle any more of those guys at the moment.


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sungam wrote:
There's really that much of a lack of climbing there?
*shudder*

Some of my best climbing memories were under a bridge in Minneapolis right next to the bridge that collapsed on 35W. The only problem is that in some places, law enforcement may have the right to confiscate your equipment if you are caught.

My thoughts are that you should always glue instead of drill. If you drill, a prosecutor could try to argue that you were damaging the bridge and endangering the public. That's a risk not worth taking, so gluing is the safest option. It is still most likely illegal to glue holds.

GT


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gregmiles wrote:
i was thanking about glueing some holds on the legs of a overpass by the river on the edge oh town . a lot of guys fish and fire off guns out there so as long as i don't drill a lot of holes in the bridge i don't thank anyone will care. i was thanking of using some epoxy and cutting some rocks with a tile saw so i wont have a lot in it if they chip off.
welcome to the 80's


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, I guess.
Just don't tell everyone about it...

Don't tell me you never had the urge to climb the Fourth.
Laugh BTW, there is a trad-protekable root on appleton tower- I shit you not. 5 pitches, hanging belays- awaits a FA. Could go aid. Have inspected line from my window (across the street) loose and chossy but good.


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sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, I guess.
Just don't tell everyone about it...

Don't tell me you never had the urge to climb the Fourth.
Laugh BTW, there is a trad-protekable root on appleton tower- I shit you not. 5 pitches, hanging belays- awaits a FA. Could go aid. Have inspected line from my window (across the street) loose and chossy but good.

Um yeah, but is it a visually appealing route? I mean, wouldn't you rather find the first line on McEwan Hall?

But now that I think of it, I wouldn't mind photos of the line. The gear sounds interesting.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, I guess.
Just don't tell everyone about it...

Don't tell me you never had the urge to climb the Fourth.
Laugh BTW, there is a trad-protekable root on appleton tower- I shit you not. 5 pitches, hanging belays- awaits a FA. Could go aid. Have inspected line from my window (across the street) loose and chossy but good.

Um yeah, but is it a visually appealing route? I mean, wouldn't you rather find the first line on McEwan Hall?

But now that I think of it, I wouldn't mind photos of the line. The gear sounds interesting.
Well, you get the best views from appleton tower...























The only views that don't have appleton tower in them!


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sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, I guess.
Just don't tell everyone about it...

Don't tell me you never had the urge to climb the Fourth.
Laugh BTW, there is a trad-protekable root on appleton tower- I shit you not. 5 pitches, hanging belays- awaits a FA. Could go aid. Have inspected line from my window (across the street) loose and chossy but good.

Um yeah, but is it a visually appealing route? I mean, wouldn't you rather find the first line on McEwan Hall?

But now that I think of it, I wouldn't mind photos of the line. The gear sounds interesting.
Well, you get the best views from appleton tower...























The only views that don't have appleton tower in them!

Laugh


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Some nutter tried something like this in Barcelona..

I don't think it caught on..






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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/gregmiles/1629880.jpg

i found the slow set on close out at home depot for $4.00 a tube.it sets in 15 min but takes 24 hours to cure .


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sika is great

but if their is an outlet nearby you can plug into, id suggest drilling pockets instead

hold for hold, drill bits are cheaper than epoxy


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gregmiles wrote:
$4.00 a tube.it sets in 15 min but takes 24 hours to cure .


that means 90% strength is developed within an hour

give you plenty of time to rap off and scrape all the excesss off your hands and rope gear and harness before having a go on what you created

it does tend to be slimy for the half hour after it sets though, plenty of chalk helpsthis, oh and a good dose of spray paint as well

you know the stuff really stand out, you aught to do a good job and blend it back in with color


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bender wrote:
sika is great

but if their is an outlet nearby you can plug into, id suggest drilling pockets instead

hold for hold, drill bits are cheaper than epoxy

Yup.

For the deluxe hold, drill it AND put sika on the base (try to get even surfaces in so far as possible). Try getting that one to spin Wink


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it's a good start. i am going to talk a latter down there this weekend to put some up top.and yes this will be a lunch spot.


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looks good man!


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Nice!

Has it got a roof?

Are you going to bolt it?


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i am going to add a few more holds to the top and a top rope but this is my new lunch spot for the fall. i can hit it three times a week at lunch and is five min form home.


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