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mother_sheep
Sep 8, 2003, 3:58 PM
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In reply to: Have I become what I used to make fun of.. those women who 'buy' their tans without having to 'work' for them? I'm afraid of what will come next.. bleaching my hair? tight ultra low-rider jeans? implants (gasp!)? is there anyone else out there? (okay, I'm bored) m
YIKES! I resemble that. With the exception of the fake boobs. Whatever works for you though. Maybe I'm jaded but I make fakeness look natural.
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cheshire
Sep 8, 2003, 11:27 PM
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I am one of these redhead, freckled, pale skin type. I use sunscreen everytime I'm outdoors. It is very important to use sunscreen that has both UVA and UVB protection, sadly not all brands have both protection. One is to protect the skin from getting burned and the other (UVB) is to protect the harmful rays from getting into the skin. I when I was on climbing trip in Colorado for a week, I had to reapply my sunscreen so many times. At the end of the week, I probably had tripled my freckles! And the good news is I didn't end up looking like lobster! I go for the sport brand since it's less greasy than the regular ones! Skin cancer is scary! :(
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philbox
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Sep 9, 2003, 6:02 AM
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Knock, knock, knock, (Phil tapping on the ladies room door) "do you mind if I just stand outside here and holler through the door. I couldn`t help myself overhearing this conversation".
Some of you may know that I live in Australia and more importantly to this conversation I reside in Queensland which is the sun cancer capital of the world. We have more skin cancer per capita than anywhere else in the world. How`s that for a claim to faim.
Needless to say we all have a vested interest in knowing whatever it takes to keep ourselves free of this dreaded disease. My brother is also a doctor of genetic engineering microbiology and was in fact responsible for helping to discover the red hair gene and he also helped to link the gene which is responsible for the red hair and freckles and light skin to the predisposition towards skin cancer.
One thing that I have learnt is that skin cancer does have a genetic link. It also occurs more frequently in people who have had very bad sunburns at an early age. It has been found that Europeans in the northern parts of Europe that have very light skins are not disposed to skin cancer if they migrate after childhood.
The sun is not necessarily bad for you in moderation in fact if the sun is avoided altogether it can actually be bad for you. I am in the fortunate position of having the faintest touch of an olive complexion. This, one could say, can go a long way towards a sort of an inoculation against skin cancer.
As we have absolutely glorious sun drenched skies I can`t imaging ever having to actually go and pay for a suntan as it can be had pretty much every day of the year for free. Mind you I don`t head out to purposely burn but I do have to work out there from time to time. I never wear sunscreen but do wear a hat and keep my shirt on.
The best advice I could give is to just be sensible and use common sense. If you know that you are going to be in the sun all day then dress accordingly and take some shade with you. Remember though that you can also get a dose of reflected uv as well as direct uv.
Phil now quietly walks backwards away from ladies room door.
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timstich
Sep 9, 2003, 4:00 PM
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In reply to: Phil now quietly walks backwards away from ladies room door.
Taps Phil on the shoulder...
BOO!!!!
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iamthewallress
Sep 9, 2003, 7:22 PM
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I fit into the ghostly redhead category too. Since I have a familiy history of cancer and living the life that I want to live means being out in the blazing sun, I sort of feel like me getting skin cancer is an inevitability. I guess I wear sunscreen more to save myself the agony of the burn, and just keep my eyes open for strange moles and spots so that I can treat anything that pops up as quickly as possible.
When I was younger I would go to the tanning bed in the spring to try to keep myself from getting fried to a crisp when I started doing outside things in the summer sun. I also like the way it looked. (I remember trying to "even out my tan" so that I could wear a strapless dress to the prom.) Anyway, now that I'm older, I realize that I'm pretty durn prematurely wrinkled. You're darker skinned, so this probably won't happen to you.
Some of my other light skinned friends who are just a couple of year older than me but who climb nearly full time have the skin of 50 year olds. In some ways I find it attractive because it tells the story of their life, but if you aren't into wearing that kind of story on your face, it's worth thinking about.
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philbox
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Sep 9, 2003, 9:15 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Phil now quietly walks backwards away from ladies room door. Taps Phil on the shoulder... BOO!!!!
Phil picks himself up off floor and skulks off to toilet after pooing pants from fright he received.
Don`t do that you could give someone a heart attack. :lol:
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shorty
Sep 12, 2003, 7:39 PM
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Assuming I can avoid stepping in philbox's "deposits" and not have timstich scare the bejeezuz out of me, here's my foray into the ladies' room.
Since I'm from a half & half Swedish / English family, growing up in the near-desert environment of southern Colorado, I have a little experience with the sunscreen and sunburns. I am so much a cracker that my hair was virtually white until kindergarten, it darkened to light brown over the years, and is now (gulp!) trying to revert to its original color. Our parents were very emphatic that we used suncreen while outdoors -- even for short durations. Except that I often didn't use it on my arms, so they often developed a moderately dark tan by the end of each summer. I even use sunscreen while skiing, even on overcast and snowy days.
I am old enough to have attended both my 10 and 20 year high school reunions. They were real eye openers. With virtually 100% correlation, those who had both great tans in high school and kept themselves well bronzed in the years afterwards, looked amazingly old at age 38. Most of their faces were wrinkled, spotted, criss-crossed with lines, and they looked old -- some appeared close to 50. This was for both the men and the women. Amazingly, the oldest-looking face at the reunion belonged to an ex-cheerleader. Her skin was same stunning bronze I lustily remembered two decades earlier, however this time it seemed more like a well-worn saddle than the velvet of prior years. Those of us who either used sunscreen or avoided sun altogether looked like our pasty-skinned 30-something selves.
As for me at the ripe old age of 45, I still have fairly well tanned arms by the end of the summer, but virtually everything else is pale enough to do justice to Casper the friendly ghost. I go through sunscreen seemingly by the case. Each year I'm outdoors for maybe 20-25 days of skiing, 30-35 days of climbing, and many others for biking, softball, and golf. I am beginning to develop small, faint spots on my forearms, but nowhere else. I have no wrinkles or crow's feet, and only a few smile lines (which I already had back in high school). My hairline gives away my age, but my skin does not.
So, it's your choice. I sure wished I wasn't so pasty white when I was younger. But now I'm quite pleased that my skin doesn't belong on an AARP advertisement. It could be genetics, but I don't think so. In my opinion, you stand a good chance of paying for deep tan today with skin problems later in life.
OK, I'll grab my walker, put my teeth back in, and shuffle out the door. Luckily for everyone, I threw on a pair of Depends in case timstich reverts to his old tricks.
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alpinelynx
Sep 12, 2003, 8:43 PM
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wow, what a response. Thanks phil and others for their comments. I have been tanning booth free for something like 4 months now and the tan lines don't bug me so much. Some history here as well. I come from nice Italian stock blended with nice whitey Scots. Melissa is right to some extent, I have slightly darker skin, but in my case, the lack of wrinkles (and resultant carding for beer) is really a result of being a no-tan freak for a long time. SPF 45 all the way. Also, I have used certain products for years (glycolic acid and green papaya enzyme) that have shown in studies to reduce and reverse sun damaged skin and premature aging. I also recently spent too much time outside in the sun and it occured to me that a sunburn will only hasten the onset of heat illness, something I don't want to have happen again. anyways, thanks folks for your input.
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amanda
Oct 7, 2003, 9:41 PM
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Personally, I think biggest issue get's danced around a lot. Laying in a tanning booth is really bad for you.
1) The burn/tan thing is your skin freaking out because of radiation.
2) It costs money which means less gear/gasoline, which means less climbing.
We've got all these forums talking about how we (as women) are so capable and strong and tough but we do silly things like pay to fake bake. We're better than that. If we can manage to drive, pay and lay in a box with lights, we should be able to manage putting on a little spf.
By the way, I'm not trying to be mean; if you tan, fine (you probably look better than I do), but it's worth thinking about the reasons why you do things. Stop tanning, and go by a Big Bro or something cool.
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