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did you say you wanted to eat me?
Jeesh, Hannibal Lector look out!!!!

Alpinist vs. Mountaineer
They are one and the same it is jus a chestbeat contest…who cares??? Climb in whatever style u choose and label yourself according to your self insecurity (Yeah… need to sound cools for the chicks and the gapers)
I call myself an outdoor enthusiast without the trendy label bull
Alpinist…Mountaineer… Aid…Trad it is all labeling…and one crock-o-shait if u think that it makes any difference

i mean outdoor enthuseast just doesn't explain that for a lot of people. labeling yourself and outdoor enthuseast means alot i mean do you bird watch? do you hike? do you climb? do you mean climbing in all areas of expertess? do you kayakee? do you hunt? or do you drive a Jeep offroad? i don't call myself any label except that wich was given to me at birth by my parents, though i can label the things i am capable on a passage of what i have done and do.

I don’t understand why do I need to explain myself to PP,

Im a Gear HO too...

So much for your egoless, titleless society? Me thinks thou doest protest too much. Don't you see how labeling yourself a HO is limiting? Hehe.

DMT

I a gear HO that define me for all the gear I have and this is still very particular description
Alpinist is very vague it is a definition for array of skills, experiences, and methods that are broader then we can put a label on
:wink:

BTW how can u call a Gear ho an egoism booster if anything it is a fault it is a synonymous for compulsive shopper …yeah I laugh at my weaknesses and acknowledge them too

BTW how can u call alpinist an egoism booster is anything it is a fault it is a synonymous for a masochist who doesn't know when to quit... yeah I laugh at my weaknesses and acknowledge them too.

wink wink

DMT

Oh I get it now, Gear HO = Gear Whore. A pseudo-self-deprecating affectation that lets everybody know that you're very, very knowledgable about climbing gear.

I like to melt cheese on Chex Mix and eat it before bed.

I like to melt cheese on Chex Mix and eat it before bed.

I don’t understand why do I need to explain myself to PP, and as part of my activities I Bird watch, I hike, I fish, I climb, I ride snowmobiles, I watch the sunset etc.
There is allot more to the title outdoor enthusiast then we like to admit…but this is a whole different story.
So yes, calling someone alpinist is actually limiting the experience and sharpening the so call aloof image…someone call the title eccentric…my question is, one adopt the title out of definition or out of egoism booster??? Now there is a fine line….it is cool to be aloof these days doesn’t it. so we all alpinists although we don’t know sh!t about what dose it mean so we need a topic that define it :wink:

To some people, Im guessing you are in the catergory, climbing (mostly the kind that happens on warm sunny days and in heated gyms) is a fun enjoyable activity.

Again you try to define a broad experiences, skills and activities by labeling it Alpinist it is like a catch 22 that u cant seems to do the definition that is why u returning to the same point and trying to bully it heads on

Man, I can't tell you how irritating it is to me when in the middle of a [BURTBRONSON]SERIOUS[/BURTBRONSON] climbing discussion someone says, "climbing is for fun, so who cares about {insert: bolts, ethics, style, punk-ass pebble wrestlers, etc.} . . . as long as you're having fun that's all that matters"

NO.

If climbing is fun to you, you are doing it wrong.

There is nothing wrong with climbing for fun, exercise or whatever. I was jsut pointing this out as it applies to this discussion. If you are climbing simply for enjoyment then you most likely arent gettting up at 4am to go climbing when you know you are going to get wet, be hungry and possibly die.