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kerouac


Jun 17, 2002, 3:05 AM
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I believe only one other person even metioned it.
SQUAMISH.
For you Yanks, that in BC. You know. Canada.


evergreen


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Just got back from Squamish and I would now put that up on my list as a trad mecca! The only prob is the rain.


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I'd definitly go with Indian Creek for the splitter cracks, and the rest of Utah for the amount and quality of the rock. Oh wait, no I wouldn't the climbing sucks, no one in their right mind would climb there. As for Eldo, whatever, you boulderites need to get your collective heads out of your asses, hop in your SUV's and climb somewhere else...on second thought, don't.


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Mecca = Yosemite
Regional Mosques
Cathedral NH
Gunk's NY
Seneca WV
ETC
But the god of climbing is everywhere and he will hear you from anywhere


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Quote:As for Eldo, whatever, you boulderites need to get your collective heads out of your asses, hop in your SUV's and climb somewhere else...on second thought, don't.

brilliant. absolutely brilliant.

i'll call the bullshit card on the "if you lead 5.10 in yosemite, you lead it anywhere" statement. how about this:

if you lead 5.10 at yosemite, the gunks, cannon cliff, whitesides, vedauwoo, the needles(both ca and sd), canyonlands, and rocky mountain national park, you can lead it anywhere.

i can't pick one. i'd say the gunks for the 5.10 and under leader and indian creek or yosemite for the 5.10 and up leader.


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woodse! shame on you! people don't come from all over the world to hit eldo? uhhh, jerry moffatt, ben moon, jean-christoph lafaille, stevie haston, johnny dawes, etc., not to metion lynn hill, royal robbins, chuck pratt, tom frost, derek hersey, etc., not to mention the gazillion people who move there for the climbing. eldo is definitely a mecca. but not THE mecca.

you are absolutely correct that YOSEMITE is THE mecca. the desert is DEFINITELY up there too. i have no idea how those euro bad asses can never climb crack and then come to indian creek and STROLL up the sh#t. must be something in the water over there!


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Too many places, but in the end I agree with GEO - it's where you make it. Personally, I think Joshua Tree is the best for placing gear but not being stuck in just the cracks (plus there is something about the desert air - no bugs, no rain), and the Needles, CA for multi-pitch. No matter where you go on both, the climbs are so clean you would think that people have been on them for years!


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A mecca is where fanatical pilgrims from all over the world travel to. The ONLY place that fits this description in the climbing world is Yosemite Valley. All the other alleged candidates are merely nice or great places to climb. They don't qualify as a mecca because they don't have the international reputation and draw.


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  Uhh? What about Chamonix, dude, or any one of many French crags like Verdon or Buoux. You can get your gear stolen by climbers of many different nationalities at any of these locations.


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I have to second Joshua Tree. Plenty of climbs at accessible grades for us less-than-hard men (and plenty of tough stuff, too, 9 months season (12 if you don't mind sweating a bit), no lines on weekends if you can handle a 20-minute hike, no hiking if you come on a weekday or don't mind waiting, within 2 1/2 hours of most Southern Californians, user-friendly weather, over 3000 routes, fantastic scenery, every move on every route is unique, sew-it-up routes, runouts, you name it. Josh's only weakness is a relative lack of long multipitch routes.


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One word.

Yosemite.

Why would you even think otherwise?

Tomato, tomato.

Steve

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