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not really as far as i know.

here theyre mostly treated as hard mountaneering routes, requiring special gear and (sometimes) good physical condition. the best i ever saw was "extremely physicaly demanding" and stuff like that.


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Someone mentioned that there are harder via ferratas in the Dolomites, is there a grading system for the difficulty of a VF?

K.

Sure, like in climbing, several. John Smith and Graham Fletcher in "Via Ferratas of the Italian Dolomites" use a system with 1 to 5 for technical difficulty and A to C for seriousness.

The one I showed a picture from above is a 3B. If you want harder ones, go for the 5C. But, please, please, try some easier ones first. You may decide not to go for the 5C after all...


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Someone mentioned that there are harder via ferratas in the Dolomites, is there a grading system for the difficulty of a VF?

K.

Yes there is a grading system. It runs from A-G. The A's are extreemly easy but maybe exposed. The G's are exposed with lots of overhangs and vertical, not to mention even more exposure.


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Italians can't climb uh? Go read some climbing history first dude :)


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A loose translation of "Via Ferrata" from that Italian origin is CAN'T CLIMB!


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The one I showed a picture from above is a 3B. If you want harder ones, go for the 5C. But, please, please, try some easier ones first. You may decide not to go for the 5C after all...

I've done the VF in West Virginny before, at NRP. I was just asking cause I was curious.

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Hehe, ok... Sorry, mixed you up with the "via ferrata is for those who cannot climb"-gang... :D 8^)


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But it's not that safe!! because of you fall you fall higher and the shock rating is higher!

Which is why it is fundamental that you use proper equipment. You are not just attached to the cable by some static webbing. A via ferrata setup requires the use of a specialized lanyard, which includes a load-limiter or energy absorber device. This can be done through a ripstitch absorber (a screamer) or through friction of rope or webbing in a friction device. The Petzl Scorpio Vertigo uses a ripstitch absorber to limit the impact force, while the Zyper-Y uses a friction device. I'm not certain, but I believe that the Scorpio uses a Nitro-3 as the ripstitch absorber.

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The Petzl Scorpio Vertigo uses a ripstitch absorber to limit the impact force, while the Zyper-Y uses a friction device. I'm not certain, but I believe that the Scorpio uses a Nitro-3 as the ripstitch absorber.

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What happens if you fall twice? :shock:


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My guess is that you're not so keen on continuing (or at all able) if you fall hard enough to activate the screamer... Or maybe it's a good reason for choosing something like the Zyper... :)


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What happens if you fall twice? :shock:

I have done many ferratas in Italy and have never fallen, but I've seen plenty of people who have including my wife twice. Both times she fell she just let out a "sh*t" and wasn't hurt any worse than if she had taken a normaly lead fall. However, the fall factors on ferratas could be very serious. We did one last summer with 80' to 100' between sketchy anchors, on an overhanging to vertical wall. We dropped about 1500’ in elevation on that ferrata sweating all the way I can tell you. :D


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petzl has 2 types of those webbing-thingies,
one you can use for the rest of your via ferrata (after that you have to throw it away, and the other one you can't use anymore if you fall (bring an other one with you!))

beware of the different pieces of gear, they don't all work the same!!!


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Just to bring this tread back to life and for those that are intrested in some cool ferrata pics here is a great link: http://www.via-ferrata.de/

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