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treez
Jun 2, 2006, 5:31 AM
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If there's an AC outlet at the base of the climb and it's not taller than 100' or so, that's perfect, albeit unnecessary.
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majid_sabet
Jun 2, 2006, 5:33 AM
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It should have at least 1-2 amp motor then cutting is easy and do it in front of a park ranger to get a free pass to local jail.
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cosmiccragsman
Jun 2, 2006, 5:36 AM
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TROLL
Sounds like you need to snack on a Big Mac, or two.
It might improve your trolling abilities. :lol: :lol:
T1
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rockguide
Jun 2, 2006, 5:39 AM
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In reply to: is it ethical to clip the bolts on the way up a route, only to chop them on the way down? how does one get down once one chops the anchors? is this a good tool to use for chopping bolts?: http://www.coastaltool.com/a/port/images/9747.jpg
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I am a bolt chopping purist. I place a bolt (on lead only). Spit on it. Curse it. Chop it. And lead through the wounded rock.
I cast the broken remains of the bolt down where it bounces off the (unhelmeted) head of my belayer as punishment for climbing with someone who places bolts.
My bolt chopping style is unsurpassable.
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Brian.
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moose_droppings
Jun 2, 2006, 5:57 AM
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A 10lb. sledgehammer works best, knock em back and forth a few times and they pop right out. Oh, and make sure you carry a right and left handed version for a wandering route.
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In reply to: is it ethical to clip the bolts on the way up a route, only to chop them on the way down?
CLASSIC!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ratmnerd
Jun 2, 2006, 10:15 AM
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Of coure it's not ethical! The only way 2 do it ethically is 2 chop the bolts before chopping them. if you think you may fall, take a sledge and a cold chisel and chip steps into the rock to you can keep nice and stable as u pound away at the bolts.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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miavzero
Jun 2, 2006, 2:41 PM
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is it ethical to feed a vegan sausage, bacon, steak and cheese if you punch them so hard that they puke it up?
silly troll.
if you need to clip the bolts so that you can reach the top, lower and chop them, then others may need the bolts to enjoy the climb.
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billcoe_
Jun 2, 2006, 3:24 PM
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There was a good thread on supertopo once about this.
Found it and copied and pasted it to the next page.
BTW,
The other way is to just take a big-assed fall like somebody did on the West Face of Monkee. They ripped out 8 of the origonal Dean Caldwell 1/4" ers in a row. eight!
At that point I think I'd have to change underware.
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micahisaac
Jun 2, 2006, 4:06 PM
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Josh I prefer the "milwaukee" it seems to have enough power to get through the "tough" bolts you and i are familiar with.
Although somtimes I have to go with my "cliffhanger DE-BOLTING gun"
http://dirckhalstead.org/...9804/images/sly7.jpg
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dirtineye
Jun 2, 2006, 4:13 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: is it ethical to clip the bolts on the way up a route, only to chop them on the way down? how does one get down once one chops the anchors? is this a good tool to use for chopping bolts?: http://www.coastaltool.com/a/port/images/9747.jpg[countertroll] I am a bolt chopping purist. I place a bolt (on lead only). Spit on it. Curse it. Chop it. And lead through the wounded rock. I cast the broken remains of the bolt down where it bounces off the (unhelmeted) head of my belayer as punishment for climbing with someone who places bolts. My bolt chopping style is unsurpassable. [/countertroll] Brian.
LOL, excellent!!!!!
That is the same way I do my bolting, except, instead of spitting, I wipe my @$$ on the bolt.
HEy OP, seriously, assuming you are not trolling, unless it is your route or you are asked to do so or given permission by the FA person, you normally have no business placing or chopping.
That is my opinion, but it is the correct one.
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killclimbz
Jun 2, 2006, 4:17 PM
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So Josh are we going to go up and take care of that lame ass bolted area in BC on Monday?
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dpurf
Jun 2, 2006, 5:06 PM
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hmmmm!!!! what area could that be. I wonder.
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micahisaac
Jun 2, 2006, 5:07 PM
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Those bolters are just as bad as the graffiti artists in Boulder Canyon!
Let go out tomarrow and start removing the bolts at the so called "sport park" It will be a Trad park!
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dirtineye
Jun 2, 2006, 5:38 PM
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In reply to: Those bolters are just as bad as the graffiti artists in Boulder Canyon! Let go out tomarrow and start removing the bolts at the so called "sport park" It will be a Trad park!
Qouting Data in your sig line???
TRekkie!!
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bobd1953
Jun 2, 2006, 5:50 PM
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In reply to: Those bolters are just as bad as the graffiti artists in Boulder Canyon! Let go out tomarrow and start removing the bolts at the so called "sport park" It will be a Trad park!
Most people don't have the balls to chop and the ones that do chop... sneak around like the weasels that are.
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micahisaac
Jun 2, 2006, 6:22 PM
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In reply to: Qouting Data in your sig line??? TRekkie!! _________________
besides (in comic book guy voice) I am a Trekor, you will notice that on "best of both worlds" when capt. Picard was abducted by the borg, and lt worf went to the degaba system, Anakin had a necromancer seven and cast a spell on Galdolf the gray (note this is not gandolf the white) as the fight for middle earth continues, Jimmy Page played on the misty mountain top etc etc etc.
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billcoe_
Jun 2, 2006, 6:32 PM
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Found it: Knew I'd seen it somewhere
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=144699#msg144699
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freeskicolorado
Jun 2, 2006, 6:39 PM
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Ummm.... apparently I'm one of the only ones who thinks that the OP was not trolling nor being serious, but rather going for humor?
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billcoe_
Jun 2, 2006, 6:53 PM
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Think you're right.
I misinterpret folks a lot. The other day some guy asked about a 12 ga. for his dorm room and I had this long soliloquy on how weapons at colleges were not generally allowed blah blah.
He was talking about a 12 ga. brand crash pad. Dohhh.
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veganboyjosh
Jun 2, 2006, 7:27 PM
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In reply to: Ummm.... apparently I'm one of the only ones who thinks that the OP was not trolling nor being serious, but rather going for humor?
not so much trolling as going for humor. but the thought had occurred to me over some drinks last night whether those who chop bolts clip them or not when they're on the way to the anchors to do some chopping, thus was born his thread.
aside from the obvious, is there a sense of ethics amongst those who chop bolts? just how hard do they eschew the bolts? etc...
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billcoe_
Jun 2, 2006, 7:53 PM
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So Veganboy, thats funny.
Are you now saying that D'Antonio won't need to kick your ass for wacking on his bolted routes? :shock: :lol:
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shorty
Jun 2, 2006, 9:00 PM
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Chopping bolts with hammers, chisels, special pins, wrenches, and drills is so old school. If you're going to do it, do it right. Use one of these puppies, and nobody -- not even Bobby D. -- will replace the bolt.
http://www.terex.com/...77047029393f18f590e9
Of course, the cliff might be a little smaller after Mr. Terex does his stuff.
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