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treehugger063
Jan 28, 2007, 3:52 AM
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Hey,
I am just starting out with waterfall ice. I currently have a pair of Sportiva Nuptse's and Vipers, which has completely taxed my budget. I own a pair of sabertooths for mountaineering and my friend, who is a big ice climber, swears by them for mixed and waterfall ice. Is he crazy? As a novice am I going to see a big improvement by dropping the $200 on a pair of vertical front points? Thanks
Judd
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dps
Jan 28, 2007, 4:12 AM
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Nope!
Have at 'er with the Sabertooths!
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anykineclimb
Jan 28, 2007, 4:17 AM
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go ahead and use em. in some conditions, horizontal pointa can be better. but for the time beinf use them and then upgrade next season
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unreleasedenergy
Jan 28, 2007, 4:52 AM
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they work fine for ice.
they won't shear as easy either in crap ice
the horizontals aren't to bad for mixed, i think they smear on rock better than the verticals, but that could just be me
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dps
Jan 28, 2007, 5:04 AM
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unreleasedenergy wrote: they work fine for ice. they won't shear as easy either in crap ice the horizontals aren't to bad for mixed, i think they smear on rock better than the verticals, but that could just be me
I agree with this. The only time I use my mono's anymore is for pillar climbing and mixed climbing with cracks or lots of mono pockets. The Rambo 4's are a bit more stable on mixed than other mono points, I still use my horizontal points for leading just about everything up to and including WI5 and M6 so far.
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big_red
Jan 28, 2007, 7:24 AM
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People have climbed better in worse
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go_dyno
Jan 28, 2007, 7:39 AM
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I had the same fear when I started on ice, "do horizontal points work on ice?" Yep, they work just fine! save your $ for gas.
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gunkiemike
Jan 29, 2007, 1:38 AM
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Here's the BIG TIP to really be happy with them: sharpen the front points. The sharper the better.
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