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yay_chris
Mar 29, 2004, 4:14 PM
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See topic, thanks.
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marcel
Mar 29, 2004, 4:30 PM
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No.
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keinangst
Mar 29, 2004, 4:56 PM
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Dollar for dollar, I think so.
As I've never bought a rope in the UK, I can't directly comment on the topic.
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clarki
Mar 29, 2004, 5:09 PM
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What does the UK have to do with anything? Bluewater is an American company........ :roll: Ropes is ropes! Most companies make ropes in many shapes (usually long and thin...) and sizes with different handling characteristics. Decide what size, impact force and length works for you and then find the best price. It is a bit like fighting over the age old Ford/Chevy question. :twisted: :twisted:
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mike_ok
Mar 29, 2004, 5:20 PM
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The topic asks "pound for pound" ... the guy who mentioned the UK was making a joke. ie, he can't comment on their worth in pounds.
I thougt the topic was asking, are they the strongest in regards to weight... ie, pound for pound are they the best. Shows my US bias... I think of weight in pounds instead of grams and currency in dollars instead of pounds ;-)
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bandycoot
Mar 29, 2004, 5:31 PM
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I'm a fan of Bluewater. I don't think that the differences in ropes is enormous, but I like that the Lightning Pro is so thin and still has the "sharp edge" certification. :)
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yay_chris
Mar 29, 2004, 5:36 PM
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I was asking this question because I have heard that Bluewater has very high rope testing standards. People have claimed that you can't get a safer climbing rope than a Bluewater. I've also heard that Bluewater uses Spetra threading in their ropes and slings, where other companies do not.
So, for a higher price, are you basically getting a much better rope?
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mike_ok
Mar 29, 2004, 5:39 PM
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I like my BW... as said, very lightweight and supple. It does have a tendency to kink when coiling though... its so supple that it fold into itself and knots easily.
As to safety, I'd say BW and Mammut both have excellent "super safe" options for edge protection, etc.
That being said, its not like I feel unsafe climbing on PMI or Edelweiss or Sterling or ... etc.
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sarcat
Mar 29, 2004, 5:42 PM
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if you ask a gear shop the "best" rope is the brand/make they have on thier shelf. I've only purchased the Beal because I get them cheap through Black Diamond. As to Blue Water the sales pitches I've heard you'd think you would be stupid to climb on anything else. I don't think this is the case.
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vegastradguy
Mar 29, 2004, 5:58 PM
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as far as certs go...probably. my doubles have the best ratings of any ropes on the market. 16 falls, sharp edge cert, low impact (5.9, i think), good elongation...etc.
as far as handling goes...that'd be personal preference. everyone has their preference for rope handling..but BlueWater is certainly a good rope in this respect as well.
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gary996
Mar 29, 2004, 6:10 PM
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I would say that most ropes are good lets face it they have to be. Just treet them with care and respect and you should have many days climbing with it
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jimdavis
Mar 29, 2004, 8:14 PM
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I think the Mammut Super-Safe is a safer rope so to speak. Check it out. Also the Sterling Marathon with it's really thick sheath is probably really safe too.
(i use the words safe talking about the ropes resistance to abbrasion, cutting, and breaking... not what the climber does with it.)
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