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kahuna3602


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Where can one buy colored or not white chalk? THanks.


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i'll speak for us all...WHY?


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I was told by that colored chalk is used in some areas, I've never seen one of these areas, to blend in with the rock better. *shrug*


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Ah, yet another newbie has purchased Mountaineering: The freedom of the hills, and read the page on chalk, and decided that they would be the most ethical enviormentalist climber known to man, climbing in the nude lest they desicrate the rock with unatural cotton fibers, and climb with only greenish brown camoflauge chalk...and their by maintane the enviormental virginity of their surroundings! What admirable aspirations, I'd be happy with people just not leaving their stupid cigarrette packs and butts all over the deck


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So would I, but there are actually places where it is required. And if brown chalk makes them happy and let's us keep climbing why not. None the less aside from the charming banter does anyone know where to get some? Or do they confiscate your white chalk as you enter the park and issue government standardized red?
And no I don't own any Mountaineering magazines, I'm far from being an expert but certainly not a newbie, and yes I am an environmentalist when it comes to beautiful rock or any other beautiful nature for that matter.

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Check with Metolius, I believe they may sell it. I know Ive seen grey chalk somewhere, maybe REI?

And I applaud your efforts to make as little impact as possible!

Jeff


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why would someone in florida need colored chalk?


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Metouils makes an Echo ball i think it is supposed to be colorless. the only places I've ever climbed at that ban white chalk where sandstone areas so chalk wasn't that big a deal. The only think I've ever done is just take some sand from the bottom of the climb and mix it with your chalk. Isn't perfect but works for me.


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pir8pinguin has spoken for me

CLIMB ON

p.s. why not coilor ot yourself?? or just use school chalk (i know that our and school chalk are not the same thin, we climb with MgCO3, school is CaCO3). maybe you can mix them together so you get some color.


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OH YEAH!!! I saw that Eco ball. I wondered if it was any good. Tell you what, somebody else buy and and review it for me


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Wow, i never thought of that. thats pretty cool.


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For a while some books were saying that colored chalk should be used especially on sandstone. Now I heard that it is actually illegal to use colored chalk because it stains the rock and is worse than the white chalk which will eventually wash away.


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Colored chalk get slimey very quickly when it gets wet So the next climbers on a cliff after a rain will hate u While white washes off in time colored slimes down the wall dicoloring holds as it goes


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The park service policy in Zion is that climbers should add red pigment to their chalk if they must use it.

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Sorry Kahuna, it was 3am, and I was all giddy in a sleepless delerium. I didn't mean too affend you, just thought colored chalk was a funny concept. It sucks and I recommend you don't use it, I have heard that the colorless ecoball stuff is ok, but it wasn't as good as just plain old standard issue powder stock! Has anyone ever used liquid?


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liquid chalk is just alcohol and chalk. still turns out the same color, i believe.


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Personally I use super glue. It is completely colorless and provides bomber grip. Only draw back is that you can only make ONE MOVE and then your done. Just make it a really good move cause you'll be there a while. I call it Glue Aiding.


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That liqued chalk stuff sucked i thought. A friend bought it and used it a few times. I tried it once. It just makes it look like you painted your hands white and it smells funny. I didn't think it lasted anylonger eather. The big thing that gets me is that you can only use it for bouldering (you can't carry the bottel with you on climbs) and even on some longer traverses i like to stop and chalk up.


kahuna3602


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Well thanks for the input. Utah seems to be big on non-white chalk, but I think the comment about the pigment staining the rock being worse than chalk is valid. Anywho it looks like, I won't be going out to Utah and will be heading back to Colorado later this summer. I'm interested in the Ecoball though. Is it really colorless or just very light dusting, like the regular chalk bags? Oh and yes in Florida I can use as much chalk as I want on the cliffs TIC. The gym gets pretty dusty though.


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in garden of the gods, colrado, i heard that you can not use white chalk, just something i heard, dont know if it is fact.......

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bmgard


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Stevematt Your right. You can't use white calk in the garden. But the rock is so sandy you don't really need it.


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I read somewhere while I was living in Europe that some places they just use sawdust. Makes sense for the hands I suppose, though I can just imagine dropping a big handful onto my next toe placement & sliding right off.


pir8penguin


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i think it's actually a moisture absorbent clak ball, so it's not really chalk it's some sort of fiber in there...


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Sawdust...hmmm, sounds weird.
Just where in Europe did you live???

I've never heard anything about sawdust however there is some conversation going on in the Finnish bouldering community, wheter or not liquid chalk is to be "accepted". In some parts of France I believe it's banned. Correct me someone if I'm wrong...
-C


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In some places, such as parks, colored chalk - or no chalk - is the rule. When I lived in Colorado Springs 16 years ago, there was a call by some non-climbers to close parts of Garden of the Gods to climbing because of the white streaks of chalk left on the rock. The local climbers got together and, wisely, agreed to use colored chalk in order to keep routes open. It seemed like a resonable compromise, but since I left CO, I don't know how it all worked out.

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