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ryan112ryan
Feb 14, 2005, 2:26 AM
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In reply to: i'm thinking about building a rack pretty soon, and i cn get #1-8 trango flexcams for about $300 new. is that a good deal in terms of quality for a beginner.
Check out gearexpress.com look at their blowouts section! i am just like you getting into trad, they have metolis power cams, sizes 1-8 (no 6) BLEMS they are a good brand, and they are a good price, i just got mine and i can't find anything cosmetically wrong with them, and they are 100% fine structurally! you'll spend the same amount on these or less!
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irockclimbtoo
Feb 14, 2005, 2:31 AM
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esallen
Feb 14, 2005, 4:13 AM
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I have a set of Trango Flex-cams. The medium and large sizes are great, but the smaller sizes suck; buy something else for your smaller peices.
Eric
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hosh
Feb 14, 2005, 5:03 AM
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Well, I think the replys on the $1000 comment would be a little off topic, considering the guy asked about Trango Flexcams...
I've got the older Flexcams, sizes 4-8. They were the first cams I ever bought. They're pretty sweet, but I'd recomend that you start with Aliens for the small stuff (or TCU's from Metolius) and BD's for the bigger stuff (Size .75 and up) or Power cams from Metolius (size 5 and up). I've never used Friends because I've never been that impressed with them. I'm not knocking them, I just can't endorse them...
My Trangos get a lot of use, but I wish I would have held out and bought Camalots or Power cans instead. And $300 isn't that good of a deal when all's said and done. They're pretty cheap cams, so if price is your main concern, it's worth it. But if you're looking for quality, hold out for something else. And like it's bee nsaid before, buy cams here and there, from different brands. That way, you only get the cams you need/want and don't end up with a bunch of un-used sizes and have to worry about replacing the smaller stuff with Aliens (or TCU's) and the bigger stuff with (insert favorite brand here).
I'm no expert, just a guy who started off buying a set of Trango Flex Cams without looking around a little more first. Great cams, but you can get better...
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yekcir
Feb 21, 2005, 8:18 PM
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There are 2 ways I'd go about building the rack... niether involve buying 300 in cheap cams...
1) If you climb with experienced partners (or ones who have already spent the money on a rack), get a set of nuts and hexes... borrow their cams and see what you like.
2) If you're getting out there with others who don't have a rack, get a set of nuts and hexes. Then get really good at cleaning stuck cams. Follow other parties (preferrably rich, slow ones) up easy climbs. You'll get really good with passive gear in a comfortable setting, although you may not get your technical jollies, a couple of (practically new) .75 camalots gives another kind of sinister satisfaction... definitely worth a few pitches of 5.4.
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dino
Feb 21, 2005, 8:46 PM
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I like what hosh says about the topic. I have two sets of Metolius and they are great-especially the smaller sizes. But the larger sizes in the BDs; 2, 3, 4, 4.5, 5 are beautiful. In addition to the Metolius I have a 3 and 4.5 in the BD and I use them a lot. My climbing partner has BDs so I get to use them frequently. I used some Trangos on a few occasions and the double sling was a pain for me.
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golsen
Mar 3, 2005, 11:44 PM
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No offense but I sense some flawed logic here. If starting to build a rack (ie: new trad climber) buying some passive pro may get you in cheaper and you will sure learn a lot more. A set of stoppers is a lot more indispensible than a set of cams. Buy webbing and tie your first runners, they work the same and are more versatile. Without biners, you may as well not have anything. there is a lot of stuff you need....
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kpj240789
Mar 4, 2005, 12:45 AM
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In reply to: f--- building a rack, feanor. What you N :twisted: :twisted: BS should be concerned with is building a sack! Run it out for a while- that way you'll appreciate the cams when you REALLY need them. |
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sirdrinksalot
Mar 4, 2005, 1:08 AM
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go to gear express. buy twenty wiregate blackdiamond biners($95), five 12inch runners and five 24inch runners($45), a set of stoppers($80), and some hexes size3or4 on up until you run out of funds. believe me dude, gear racks up alot faster than experience, cams will not make you a strong climber.
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all_that_is_rock
Mar 4, 2005, 1:37 AM
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Everyone is different in thier needs and likes. I personally dont like flex cams. I have a WC zero #3, blue-orange aliens with doubles in some, and .75-4.5 camalots (old school not C4). I shoped around before i bought and this was the sizes in each company that worked best for me. Recently I have also been buying the larger aliens to replaice my smaller camalots.
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