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I cant believe im already thinking about winter break less than 1/2 way through the summer, but im woundering where the best place is to go for trad in late december. Id prefer to stay in the states, since flying domestically is annoying enough.

Joshua Tree was of course the first place that popped into my mind, but im unsure about the temps. I was there the end of march this year and found it pleasant enough - how would the weather then compare to december? Any info on the conditions then would be great, and id definatly entertain suggestions for other areas. Thanks -ws


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it can get kinda cold and wet on occasion but Red River Gorge is still good....
Disclaimer: Mountaineering is my real passion, it doesn't really get cold until 16,752 ft or above the 45th parallel [or].


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Late December, early January in J Tree is usualy relatively nice. (Rose Bowl Effect) It seems to be the coldest in November and early December.

Rain is not usually an issue for more than a few hours at most if at all. This last years record snow dump was a highly unusual, (once a century?) event.


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Trad for December? Yep, JT would be your best bet.

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Red Rocks, NV should be on that list.


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the tennesse wall is also a great and often overlooked winter trad climbing area although it can rain chances are good that there will be a lot of days that the climbing is great and if the sun is out the temps are fantastic


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T wall is good, but....
Western North Caroliona.
Looking Glass, NC- premire from 5.4 ao A5. Single pitch, multi pitch, whatever. Nearby Asheville is a ghost town in the winter months (= cheap rooms) and the climate is nice. I've been known to climb without a shirt on New Years Day.
Linville Gorge, NC- right up the road. It's a hike to the camp ground because the steep road is closed off, but good, good climbing.
Also check out Cedar Rock, Whitesides, and Rumbeling Bald. All these places are within 2 hours of eachother. Need beta? PM me. I've lived there, guided there, and am going there again next week.
But I honestly say fuck trad. Head to Potrero Chico for the BEST SPORT CLIMBING ANYWHERE! Where else can you go 24 pitches straight up in a day? And the greatest New Years party around. Again, pm me.


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Twall here in Chattanooga, TN is great. It's pretty much all trad and the climbs can be a little pushy for the grade. There's very limited toprope access and if a climb is bolted it's going to be hard.


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Red Rock Canyon, outside of Vegas.

T Wall, outside Chattanooga.

JT.

Potrero Chico, in Mexico (but it's more sport than trad, from what I understand, and obviuosly in Mexico, not the US.)

But I gotta say this.... December is prime time for ice in many places. Go buy yourself some tools, crampons, and a warm belay jacket and learn ice climbing. You can thank me later.


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Red Rock Canyon, outside of Vegas.

T Wall, outside Chattanooga.

JT.

Potrero Chico, in Mexico (but it's more sport than trad, from what I understand, and obviuosly in Mexico, not the US.)

But I gotta say this.... December is prime time for ice in many places. Go buy yourself some tools, crampons, and a warm belay jacket and learn ice climbing. You can thank me later.
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J Tree is obvious, but...

Can't believe none have suggested Hueco Tanks. My how the mighty have fallen! Maybe its because people think of it as a bouldering haven or because TPWD made things relatively unfriendly there. Or maybe you think its mostly bolt clipping. There may not be much crack climbing but there is a lot of creative nut placing in pockets and behind flakes, and plenty healthy runouts. Regardless, the climbing is as good as anywhere and the area was developed in a very traditional style. Even when the weather is poor there you can still find a sheltered place to boulder.

No, your best bet is to fly into Vegas and go to Red Rocks and J Tree, or fly into Salt Lake and go to Moab, Zion, Ibex, and that secret granite area I'm not supposed to tell you about. Doh.


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T wall is good, but....
Western North Caroliona.
Linville Gorge, NC- right up the road. .

brrrr. ive been in linville in the winter. it was bitter and the river was frozen solid and we were dressed for winter hiking and still froze. you climb there in december?


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*But I honestly say fuck trad. Head to Potrero Chico for the BEST SPORT CLIMBING ANYWHERE! Where else can you go 24 pitches straight up in a day? And the greatest New Years party around.*

Now now...we all know that sport rules, but you still gotta make your bones trad climbing, or you'll never be a made guy. Vegas in December should be prime.


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