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jbrazil


Jan 30, 2006, 5:10 PM
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Hello all!

First of all I am a beginner climber. After I came down from my first(and only as of now) climb I felt VERY dizzy and I had blurred vision. Shortly after I felt as tho I was going to black out. I went home and had a migraine.

I don't have an extreme fear of heights just the normal fear I guess. I find this very strange. My only guess as to what happened to me was that I got way to tense while I was climbing.

Has anyone else felt this before and do you have any suggestions on how to prevent it from happening??

I would appreciate any help you all could give me. I would very much like to go climbing again. It was fun before all this happened : )



Thanks a bunch!!


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Jan 30, 2006, 5:38 PM
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Your 'dizzy' sounds like vertigo to me. But I don't even play Dr. on the internet, so this is mostly just bullshit of course.

Vertigo could be a medical issue, could be a reaction to anxiety or even a mild panic attack. Did you have a ringing in one or both ears as well?

Go try it again, see if the same thing happens. Maybe you should try easier climbs next time, where perhaps you retain a greater sense of control?

DMT

ps. I've had vertigo attacks for many years, once while jugging 300' up fixed ropes on a wilderness wall... twas no fun at ALL.


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Ya know, I had the same thing happen to me. I don't have any idea what caused it at all or how to prevent it. I went to see the doctor and they said that I might have had a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack?). I just have made a habit of carrying some migraine medicine just in case it happens again..


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Get your blood pressure checked


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Sounds like a little anxiety.


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This happens to me when I am about to start a bad migraine. So it could just be a coincidence. You could also be breathing improperly - either holding your breath or hyperventilating. Either will make you dizzy and could possibly lead to the changes in blood flow that I understand are the cause of a migraine. You could do some yoga-style breathing exercises prior to climbing and remain mindful of your breathing as you climb.

My migraines worry me because while I have never had one while leading I have had them while following multipitch climbs and it does pose a bit of a dangerous situation. Does anyone else have a particular medication or a technique of dealing with migraines that seems to work well?

Deirdre


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Are you in shape? When I first started my heart rate would skyrocket (due to not doing cardio in years). I would get dizzy and tired fast. I found that a 10 minute sprint on the treadmills before climbing was really helpful. Once I had a little more endurance it was no longer a problem.

Chris


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Maybe its nothing, maybe it was induced by fear, vertigo, or exertion. Don't know the situation.

See a doctor. I am not a doctor, and I won't pretend to be one on the internet.

Brian


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Do you have a history of migraine? If so, how frequent are the headaches? If you told me you did not have a history and had a severe headache when climbing, I'd say that was very odd.


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Hello all,


Thanks for your help. I'll just take it a little easier next time. I just need to remember to relax.

I'll let you know how it goes next time.

Thanks again


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Feb 13, 2006, 6:31 AM
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This happens to me when I don't drink enough. I have low blood pressure and really push the fluids, especially while exercising.

^^ike


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the dizzy might be "aura" About 50% of people get it before a migraine. It is how I always know to quickly take my meds, find a dark space, and try to pass out ASAP.

It is probably not really related to climbing. I get them when I am stressed, and when I'm relaxed, when I'm working hard, and when I'm hardly working. For some people, certain foods trigger it. Try climbing again and I'll bet you will be fine. It probably was going to happen anyway and just happened to happen when climbing.


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I felt that way when I had my heart attack. After that I had open heart surgery. A few months later I climbed the prosecutor in sedona and felt like that after doing the OW pitch. I wasn't having a heart attack but it felt close. How old are you? M


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Once on a route in Red Rock, I had some kind of inner ear issue and kept having intense dizzy spells, often while on lead. It had been going on for a week prior and no way I was missing that trip. Luckily they only lasted like 3-5 seconds and then I'd be fine for another hour or so. I had zero other symptoms... nada.

And I still summitted.

'Cause that's the way I roll, bitches. 8^)

Anywho, is it possible you just happened to have an inner ear infection on the same day you went climbing?


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I'd say dehydration. I have a slight tendency of not drinking water. This results in blurred peripheral vision and dizziness. Then I binge on water and gatorade. I usually have a headache for a few hours afterwards.


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How many beers did you drink before you climbed?


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Mar 9, 2006, 9:18 AM
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jbrazil,
I just read your post about the symptoms you had while climbing.
I will say they sound similiar to a condition that I have been diagnosed with. I discovered it while soloing five and dime in the valley. Passed clean out.
Anyway, the condition is called vasovagal syncope or neurocardiogenic syncope. The prodromal symptoms are similiar to the ones you describe. A cardiologist can test you for it by doing what is called a "tilt table test".
Basically anyone with this condition has a cardiovascular system that rresponds erroneously to elevatedlevels of epinephrine/norepinephrine (adrenaline). It is actually pretty common. If you have this happen again get to a doctor, as it could be serious if you pass out completely as I did while climbing.

Rick
sent you a PM as well.


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