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scubasnyder
Apr 15, 2006, 12:01 AM
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Does anyone have any pictures of this packs closure system at the top?? Ive read this pack was floated down streams in a backpacking magazine and was wondering how the closure system works ??
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honus
Apr 15, 2006, 12:19 AM
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i saw a prototype of this pack, and it had a dry bag style closure. the only palce water could get in through was the water bladder hose hole. i would assume that they still use this design.
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rhythm164
Apr 15, 2006, 3:52 AM
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Basically it has a top that rolls closed and then clips, as not to unroll. It's pretty bad ass from what I understand, and yea, I hear it'll float.
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madrodney
Apr 16, 2006, 1:45 AM
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Someone looks like a real Arc'teryx gear head. Well, sounds that Naos 55 is an awesome stuff. I am looking forward to seeing it. So sad about it, i am in China.Nothing could be on the same step of worldwide.
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honus
Apr 16, 2006, 2:50 AM
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the other cool thing about this pack is the hip belt. it's not sewn on like most others, but instead it's attached with a a rotating joint sort of thingy. basically, it's designed so that the hip belt moves independantly from the pack, while still carrying the weight. it's tough to describe, but it's a neat feature that's supposed to make hiking a lot more comfortable with this pack. and no...i don't work for arcteryx, but i would take some of their stuff for free if they want me to.
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rhythm164
Apr 16, 2006, 2:59 AM
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[quote="madrodney"]Nothing could be on the same step of worldwide I have no idea what you're talking about.
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climbinginchico
Apr 16, 2006, 3:36 AM
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In reply to: the other cool thing about this pack is the hip belt. it's not sewn on like most others, but instead it's attached with a a rotating joint sort of thingy. basically, it's designed so that the hip belt moves independantly from the pack, while still carrying the weight. it's tough to describe, but it's a neat feature that's supposed to make hiking a lot more comfortable with this pack. and no...i don't work for arcteryx, but i would take some of their stuff for free if they want me to. My North Face Catalyst 75 has a similar design. The waist belt is independent of the back panel, connected with 3 carbon fiber tube stays and a large pivot. It works awesomely, I can bent and twist, and the belt stays put on my hips and the pack moves with me really well. I was honestly waiting for the AC2 line to come out, but couldn't wait when the release date was moved back, so I ordered my TNF bag. I love it, and will still probably get an Acrux 50 for my mid-sized pack, as I like that more than the smaller TNF packs. Here's the suspension on my Catalyst 75
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scubasnyder
Apr 17, 2006, 4:06 PM
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thanks for all the info, hopefully the price will come down on this pack though, its a steep 430$. As for the hole for the hydration system, does anyone know the closure is it neoprene like most packs ?? reason being, I was thinking of using this pack for kyak trips and wondering if it would be a good investment or stick to my waterproof bags from EMS.
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rhythm164
Apr 17, 2006, 4:16 PM
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you might be better off sticking with drybags for paddling, especially if you're talking an electronics, like a digi camera. Also depending on what kind of boat you have, that Arc'teryx pack might not fit in your bulkhead. Not to mention that they're a hell of alot cheaper, and Arc'teryx never drops their prices.
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scuclimber
Apr 19, 2006, 4:25 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: the other cool thing about this pack is the hip belt. it's not sewn on like most others, but instead it's attached with a a rotating joint sort of thingy. basically, it's designed so that the hip belt moves independantly from the pack, while still carrying the weight. it's tough to describe, but it's a neat feature that's supposed to make hiking a lot more comfortable with this pack. and no...i don't work for arcteryx, but i would take some of their stuff for free if they want me to. My North Face Catalyst 75 has a similar design. The waist belt is independent of the back panel, connected with 3 carbon fiber tube stays and a large pivot. It works awesomely, I can bent and twist, and the belt stays put on my hips and the pack moves with me really well. I was honestly waiting for the AC2 line to come out, but couldn't wait when the release date was moved back, so I ordered my TNF bag. I love it, and will still probably get an Acrux 50 for my mid-sized pack, as I like that more than the smaller TNF packs. Here's the suspension on my Catalyst 75 Yeah, that TNF design has been out for a while. Gregory also uses something similar on some of their packs. REI does as well. Colin
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crackers
Apr 19, 2006, 1:41 PM
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In reply to: I was thinking of using this pack for kyak trips and wondering if it would be a good investment or stick to my waterproof bags from EMS. reminder: i make packs for my living. End of Caveat. I really really DON'T recommend buying one of these bags for kayaking. While the bemis sewfree technology used in the construction of the bag is waterproof, you have to ask about the fabric. In the prototypes that I've seen, they've used two different fabrics: a ripstop of some sort with a really heavy PU backing and an XPac. The X-Pac is the same stuff I use in my packs and it's 200 PSI water resistant. The PU will wear off, its just a question of time and abrasion...I don't think they went to production with the X-Pack because the DWR on the face fabric of the X-Pack laminate does not respond well to sewfree construction; the DWR prevents the glue from sticking very well. Drybags from sealine and the rest are all a totally different family material and those materials are actually waterproof. YMMV, but i'd think about it... (edited to add the DON'T which I had forgotten in my pre coffee haze...thanks brent!)
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slimper
Apr 19, 2006, 5:12 PM
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I agree, nothing beats and good dry bag in a boat. However, I got the chance to check this bag out a while ago. I was very impressed with it's over all design, and quality. The hipbelt connector is a rotating disc, as mentioned above. This disc is great because if allows the hipbelt to be removed in about .53423 seconds. javascript:emoticon(':D') OK may be not that fast, but is is just a flick of the wrist to remove the hipbelt. The hydration port can be plugged by a large stopper to seal up the bag. Literally, I filled this bag with air then we took turns laying on the thing. Nothing escaped, this is one tight bag.
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