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up_for_a_good_time
Apr 18, 2006, 5:42 AM
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first of all, wool socks keep your feet warm when they crank the AC in the gym during the dead of summer. secondly, turkey clubs go in the cargo pockets for easier access.
i really don't know where such animosity came from regarding mad rocks as i've never even tried on a pair. my apologies to the mad rockers out there.
honestly, though...try out the muiras. a solid all-around shoe, guaranteed to enhance your plastic pulling by at least grade or two. that rhymed. :)
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angry
Apr 18, 2006, 5:58 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: what is the best mad rock shoe for trad. No such thing. Go with the Evolve Bandit. best shoe all around. I've used it for everything from multi-pitch trad to 5.11 sport. great shoe. hosh.
Not untrue, but are still vastly inferior to the Evolve Quest for pure crack climbing. Though the 2006 is slightly better than the 2005, it's still no splitter climber.
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jimdavis
Apr 18, 2006, 6:02 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: ok... can anyone recommend the most supportive pair of mad rock shoes? its obviously not just preference, some shoes are designed to be stiffer than others. madrock locos are the best damn offwidth and slab shoe I have ever worn. Just make sure that you get them super tight.
:lol:
I love it!
Anyway, Mad Rock sucks for trad shoes. When I think trad, I think supportive, durable, comfortable....not what Mad Rock excels at.
Their shoes are decent for bouldering and sport...but they're too soft and disposable. I've climbed in Phoenix's and thought they sucked (early days of MR) and I own Flash's and won't buy them again. They've held up ok, but I could barely get them on when I bought them, and now they're almost sloppy on my feet, they've stretched so much.
Politics aside, I wouldn't recommend Mad Rock shoes, especially for a "trad" shoe.
I just ordered some Evolv Quest's for a trad shoe...I haven't climbed in them yet, but I think they'll be much better than any shoe Mad Rock offers.
Jim
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freeledgeledgy
Apr 18, 2006, 6:09 AM
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I'd say Mythos are the all time overall trad shoe.....but check out the evolv quest for a cheaper..little bit stiffer fit...
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iceisnice
Apr 18, 2006, 3:20 PM
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unless you are climbing 5.12/13 trad...the shoe doesn't mean shit. people were climbing 5.10 in leather boots for decades. work on the technique and don't blame the shoe. i say buy the cheapest pair you can find (5.10 spires??) and just deal.
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azrockclimber
Apr 18, 2006, 3:27 PM
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pretty sure they were discontinued...but you may still be able to find your size for sale...
5.10 newtons ... best trad shoes ever...
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beanrock
Apr 19, 2006, 2:38 AM
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In reply to: dude, give up with the mad rock shoes...mad rock blows.
I said, i have a certificate for mad rock shoes for coming in third in a comp so i dont have a choice.
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jimdavis
Apr 22, 2006, 3:41 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: dude, give up with the mad rock shoes...mad rock blows. I said, i have a certificate for mad rock shoes for coming in third in a comp so i dont have a choice.
Did the person in first get a certificate for 5.10? :lol:
I guess the Frenzys are your best bet then.
Cheers,
Jim
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petsfed
Apr 22, 2006, 4:50 AM
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Get what fits. If its not lined, get it in the smallest size you can fit your foot into. A comfortable, not constricting, fully stretched shoe without much midsole is AMAZING for all but the offwidths and the really thin slabs. Stiffness does not come into play for most of trad, even multipitch stuff, although a stiff shoe will mean a less sore foot at the end of a long day. You might also prefer lace-ups, since they have a bit more adjustable fit. The Frenzy EZ might be worth checking out, its pretty much a carbon copy of the old 5.10 ascent. Also, the Maniac is identical to the moccasym, except it has a single velcro strap, for reasons not entirely clear to me.
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getsomeethics
Apr 22, 2006, 6:32 AM
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