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blumsky_climbs_rox
May 2, 2006, 3:01 AM
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I live in NC. I sport climb a lot. I have a small rack of camalots and nuts. Somebody teach me! Please!
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chrisb
May 3, 2006, 12:30 PM
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Honestly, you should think about getting a guide for a couple days.
I'm sure you're experienced with some level of rope/gear management, but paying a guide would be a great use of your money. You'll be able to ask and do anything and everything you want/need to learn, without worrying about slowing someone else down. Plus, after a couple days with a guide, you'll be in a much better position to go with other folk--having that experience will make you a much more attractive 'newer' partner than just someone begging to learn.
Yes, guides cost money and spending money sucks, but the other options are to be at the ever changing mercies of more experienced folk or go it alone and learn the hard way (read: hurting yourself or worse).
Just remember, if you do find an experienced person willing to teach you, the standard compensation is beer (preferrably an IPA), effusive praise, and not losing any of her/his gear.
Good luck
cb
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gordo
May 3, 2006, 12:57 PM
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In reply to: Just remember, if you do find an experienced person willing to teach you, the standard compensation is beer (preferrably an IPA), effusive praise, and not losing any of her/his gear.
Now that there is some seriously good advice!! :D
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reg
May 3, 2006, 2:01 PM
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In reply to: Honestly, you should think about getting a guide for a couple days.
right on!!!
In reply to: Just remember, if you do find an experienced person willing to teach you, the standard compensation is beer (preferrably an IPA), effusive praise, and not losing any of her/his gear. Good luck cb
IPA's are not beer - it is an ale - India pale - hopped up so as to survive the journey from england to india - drank warm out of a wooden cast! i prefere it cold in a mason jar.
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shakylegs
May 3, 2006, 2:11 PM
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In reply to: IPA's are not beer - it is an ale - India pale - hopped up so as to survive the journey from england to india - drank warm out of a wooden cast! i prefere it cold in a mason jar.
You're correct on the history. However, IPA is a beer, it's simply not a lager.
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csproul
May 3, 2006, 2:19 PM
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Where in NC do you live and how hard are you sport climbing ? It's a rough place to live if you are into sport climbing as there isn't a whole lot of it and most of it is over my head. There is a lot of good trad and good trad climbers to partner up with. Guides can be a nice way to learn, but some guides just aren't interested in(or capable of) teaching as opposed to leading people up climbs, so keep that in mind when picking a guide. But a guide is not necessary, there are plenty of experienced trad climbers around to learn from.
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blumsky_climbs_rox
May 3, 2006, 5:47 PM
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i agree on most all counts here. i climb 5.11 sport-ish. yes this is a crapplace for sport climbing, i boulder a lot too:(
i know a lot of theory, i just need to see it in practice maaaaaan
*jingles beer* someone help meeeee
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hosh
May 3, 2006, 6:17 PM
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Pshaw! Buy me a ticket to NC and I'll teach you! Heck, I won't even charge you the beer fee! (I don't drink...)
But you'll have to wait a few weeks at least, my wife is going to have a baby any day now, she had contractions all night last night, I'm at work waiting for my cell to ring so I can go and be a daddy!
hosh.
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mdacar
May 3, 2006, 6:22 PM
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I would check out Fox Mountain guides. That's who I went to to learn trad and it was really good. I had 4 people in the class when I took it so it wasn't too expensive either. But definitely worth the money.
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csproul
May 3, 2006, 6:30 PM
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If you live in the triangle area I'd be up with climbing with yousometime. If not, it'd be a little harder to meet you. You can already climb and lead (presumably), and placing gear is just a matter of practice and evaluation of yours and others gear placements. Send me a PM
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mr8615
May 3, 2006, 6:49 PM
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I'll be in brevard all summer, if you're close by there, send me a PM. I'll be working as a guide, but I wouldn't be above teaching you gear placements in exchange for a steady partner when I'm not working.
Mark
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blumsky_climbs_rox
May 3, 2006, 7:04 PM
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i live in winston-salem and will be working at a gear shop. guiding is my next goal . . .
im always up for climbing with anyone who will put up with me :D
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hosh
May 3, 2006, 7:24 PM
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Wait, you're asking to learn to climb trad, and you're looking to guide? If this is a future goal, then cool. but if you're looking to be guiding now, then I'm concerned... I've been climbing trad for 3 years now, and I'm not even looking to be a guide...
hosh.
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blumsky_climbs_rox
May 3, 2006, 7:27 PM
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future goal hoss, i am a recreation and leisure studies major in school.
learn lots of stuff
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graduate
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guide
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park ranger/open business
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hosh
May 3, 2006, 7:33 PM
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cool, jsut checking. Kinda caught me a little off guard, you know?
"hoss". (?)
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reg
May 3, 2006, 7:37 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: IPA's are not beer - it is an ale - India pale - hopped up so as to survive the journey from england to india - drank warm out of a wooden cast! i prefere it cold in a mason jar. You're correct on the history. However, IPA is a beer, it's simply not a lager.
i learn something every day. beer ales and beer lagers (googled it) - dam (not damn) i thought i was an ale man v.s. beer whatever. thanks shaky
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porcelainsunset
May 3, 2006, 7:39 PM
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In reply to: future goal hoss, i am a recreation and leisure studies major in school. learn lots of stuff > graduate > guide > park ranger/open business
Right on man. If you want to make a profession out of this, then I would learn from the professionals. See how they do it, what worked, what didn't, and how to do their job better than them.
However, IMHO I would never pay anybody money to teach me to climb. I climb A2, 5.11 trad, and have never spent a penny on somebody teaching me. I have bought some of my friends beer in exchange for their help. There are plenty of skilled people out there who are willing to teach people to climb, as long as their students are capeable and willing to learn/try. These people are out there, it is just going to take you a while to find them.
Good luck!
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blumsky_climbs_rox
May 3, 2006, 7:50 PM
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hoss-slang like 'buddy, etc' around here, sorry.
i am always glad to shell out beer for learning, and i will prob hire a guide before the summer is over, but i don't have money oozing out of my butt and i am impatient!
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marinaaxid25
May 5, 2006, 6:25 PM
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climbing in general is a self-disciplined sport. You don't need to pay a coach for weekly lessons in order to move up the ranks to climb better. The way I see it, the more time you put in, the more you'll get out of it.
It's a good idea to hire a guide if you want to learn about the gear...but for the most part, if you have friends who are patient to teach you, then your best bet is to put that $200+ into better use.
For me, that money will go toward my tuition for grad school. Guides will still be around by the time I graduate, so I'm not worried.
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rockguide
May 5, 2006, 7:08 PM
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In reply to: Where in NC do you live and how hard are you sport climbing ? It's a rough place to live if you are into sport climbing as there isn't a whole lot of it and most of it is over my head. There is a lot of good trad and good trad climbers to partner up with. Guides can be a nice way to learn, but some guides just aren't interested in(or capable of) teaching as opposed to leading people up climbs, so keep that in mind when picking a guide. But a guide is not necessary, there are plenty of experienced trad climbers around to learn from.
True, and alot of experienced trad climbers just aren't interested in(or capable of) teaching as opposed to leading people up climbs, so keep that in mind when picking an experienced trad climber. And make sure they really do know what they are doing - a strong climbing resume and good movement skills do not always indicate knowledge of climbing systems.
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