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redlegrangerone
Jun 19, 2006, 3:37 PM
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I am still usuing my origional XGK. It is possible to simmer with care. And I can use it in winter also. It is a little heavy and bulky though.
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pennapolis
Jun 19, 2006, 3:44 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: MSR Whisperlite. No questions. It's easy to maintainence. And if you really know how to use it, you can simmer on really low heat. And it's cheap compared to all of the fancier stoves. That all outweighs in my mind, the need for some super-light tiny stove. Agreed, though I'm not having much luck with the simmer thing. Only approach I found that works is to wrap the windscreen foil kinda tight, set my pan on top of that, and hope the whole damn thing doesn't fall. You can depressurize the system. Let it prime like normal, and then turn the stove off, and unscrew the pump, and let the air out. Screw it back in and pump it just a few times, and it burns really low. And you can raise it as well. Wrap the windscreen a little tighter, and then bend the edge in just a few places in towards the stove in the middle, creating little V's in the top edge of the screen. it creates a lot more rigidity than having just the circle of the windscreen. Let me know if you want pics.
Been using the Whisperlight International since they started making them. Love it, used the hell out of it, still going strong. But the simmer thing? Would like to see the pics if you still have them.
Pennapolis
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rhaig
Jun 19, 2006, 3:52 PM
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In reply to: whisperlite international... haven't used it much, it is in TX and i am not, but a great stove for the little i have used it... and it was on sale!
I'll add on another hell yeah for the whisperlite international. I've burned gasoline and kerosine in mine and it works fine. Send several to philmont with some scouts who aren't known for caring for gear or filtering fuel. No clogs, no problems.
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double
Jun 19, 2006, 3:54 PM
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I have a MSR Simmerlite, here's my logic:
Liquid Fuel
-lighter and takes less space over a longer trip. Cannisters are better for short trip.
-works better in the cold
-less waste
-cheaper
-more stable due to being near the ground
-more efficient since you can use the metal wrap that doesn't enlcose the tank
-doesn't simmer as well, but is ok if you use the pressure trick discussed above
-cons are that it is a pain to light due to the priming
In my opinion, liquid fuel stoves are better for backpacking, while cannisters are better for short trips (like mountaineering) due to their ease of use.
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euroford
Jun 20, 2006, 2:19 PM
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why does everybody care about simmering?
wtf, cooking is for backpackers. on a climb, you only need to boil and melt snow.
if you need to really cook, like back at your car camp, use a coleman jobber. its like, a real stove eh.
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angry
Jun 20, 2006, 2:33 PM
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In reply to: For general backpacking I use my DIY V8 can stove. It will bring two cups to a boil in about 5 minutes, weighs in around 0.5 ounce, and packs easily with windscreen and pot stand inside of my cook pot. I burn denatured alcohol but lots of other fuels will work too. Since I made a few of these things, my old wisper light hardly ever comes out the storage box. Did i mention it only costs the price of two beer cans or two V8 cans? But the biggest perk is the sound it makes, its practically silent compared to a jet boil, wisper light, pocket rocket, etc. If you have ever been around a camp when several wisper lights are going at the same time you know what i mean.
It's a cool trick to know, but 5 minutes is really slow. I mean really slow.
I can boil a quart in half that time.
Besides, I like a stove that sounds like a jet engine.
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speedywon
Jun 20, 2006, 4:17 PM
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Another DIY job. It's very light, and your cook pot is a Heineken keg can (how cool is that).
http://www.csun.edu/~mjurey/penny.html#
I definetly wouldn't take it for a winter trip where I need to melt snow/ice for water, but I love it work 2-3 day spring/summer backcountry trips.
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double
Jun 20, 2006, 4:27 PM
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In reply to: why does everybody care about simmering? wtf, cooking is for backpackers. on a climb, you only need to boil and melt snow. if you need to really cook, like back at your car camp, use a coleman jobber. its like, a real stove eh.
...because the topic was "your favourite backpacking stove".
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sweetchuck
Jun 20, 2006, 4:36 PM
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Another vote for the whisperlite. I bought mine in 1988 or 89 when it was Backpacker Magazine’s Editor’s Choice. It has been going strong ever since. It has been my go to stove in the “living in the Army bus in the field” days, and also in my “stealth cooking in the college dorm” days although it was a little smelly. It’s easy to clean, light and compact. I don’t have much experience with other stoves because my whisperlite has lasted so long, but I did take a DragonFly on the AT for 6 months. It was ok. Bulky, folded down like crap, more complicated than necessary, but it worked.
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euroford
Jun 20, 2006, 8:42 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: why does everybody care about simmering? wtf, cooking is for backpackers. on a climb, you only need to boil and melt snow. if you need to really cook, like back at your car camp, use a coleman jobber. its like, a real stove eh. ...because the topic was "your favourite backpacking stove".
oh, so then this should be moved to community is what your saying?
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cruxy
Jun 20, 2006, 9:08 PM
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I have the pocket rocket and the whisperlite. the whisper light is better in colder higher altitudes (Mt Rainer, Mt Shasta), but the PR is the best basic backpacking trips and climbing trips. It is easy field maintance, lighter than the whisperlite and not quite as dirty.
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andrewd
Jun 20, 2006, 9:09 PM
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I have a MSR Dragonfly. Loud as hell but very easy to cook with. Mostly prefer to cook things that "you just add water" but when i used my wisperlite i would tend to scorch pots (even melt them) and burn pasta's. Forget about cooking anything like pancakes or eggs on the wisperlite. The dragonfly has performed well. Took it to Australia and used it on gasoline for the first time there. Seemed very efficient as one fill up lasted for at least a week. I have had no problems as of yet with the Dragonfly (except the loud thing). Its a little bigger and a little heavier but i enjoy the simmer features so i don't think i could give that up. Also can boil water just as fast as the Wisperlite.
Hope that helps
-Andrew
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dleighto
Jun 20, 2006, 9:13 PM
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Short summer trips: MSR Pocket Rocket
-Super small.
-Super cheap.
-Gets the job done although the support arms tend to bend easily.
Larger and/or Winter trips: MSR Dragonfly
-It is loud but doesn't bother me.
-Super stable, hot, and easily adjustable.
-It isn't as complicated as some people may make it out to be.
A negative with all of the MSR liquid fuel stoves is the plastic pump.
I have also had a whisperlite and I liked it but it isn't easily set to simmer. All in all I think these three stoves are quality products.
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rgbscan
Jun 20, 2006, 9:52 PM
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another vote for the whisperlite. It replaced a coleman peak 1 stove that I was very fond of.
Chris
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double
Jun 21, 2006, 12:49 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: why does everybody care about simmering? wtf, cooking is for backpackers. on a climb, you only need to boil and melt snow. if you need to really cook, like back at your car camp, use a coleman jobber. its like, a real stove eh. ...because the topic was "your favourite backpacking stove". oh, so then this should be moved to community is what your saying?
Pretty obvious that the OP is talking about a backpacking stove. Maybe you think this means it should be in community because climbers don't simmer? Ever go on a trip that involves both backpacking and climbing?
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mtnkid85
Jun 21, 2006, 1:40 AM
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nother vote for the whisper lite. I have the whisperlite and the pocket rocket. Both are nice stoves and I would recommend either one. I dont particullarly like the fuel canisters for the pocket rocket however.
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