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dutyje
Jun 30, 2006, 1:16 AM
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1. Trad, TR, Sport
2. BlueWater Accelerator
3. 10.5mm x 60M
4. No
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omegaprime
Jun 30, 2006, 1:47 AM
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1. Sport
2. Beal Top Gun
3. 10.5mm x 60M
4. No
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jt512
Jun 30, 2006, 1:50 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: I am doing a technical report for a college class on rock climbing, more specifically ropes and rock climbing. So if you all could help me, I am conducting a survey and I need at least 100 responses for this to be somewhat accurate. Where's Jay? We need Jay. To explain why 100 or 100,000 responses does not make a survey more accurate. Hopefully, your prof already knows the answer to this too. 8^)
I limited myself to the following comment on Page 1:
In reply to: In reply to: So if you all could help me, I am conducting a survey and I need at least 100 responses for this to be somewhat accurate. You'd better hope your teacher is as lax about survey sampling and design as you are.
Jay
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superbum
Jun 30, 2006, 2:27 AM
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In reply to: hello again everyone, if you all have not seen one of my previous posts. I am doing a technical report for a college class on rock climbing, more specifically ropes and rock climbing. So if you all could help me, I am conducting a survey and I need at least 100 responses for this to be somewhat accurate. I am trying to find: 1) The type of climbing you do (TR, Sport, Trad, etc) 2) Brand of rope 3) Size of rope (diameter and length) 4) have you ever had a rope failure, please explain. Let me be a little more spefic now...If you climb more than one style, list your preference for the rope, size and failures if any, for each type individually. If you all could do it in that sort of order you would help me tremendously, thanks everyone.
Sport:
Mammut 10mm/60m
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Beal 9.7mm/70m
Trad:
Beal 9.7mm/70m
Alpine rock:
Beal 9.7mm/70m
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vegastradguy
Jun 30, 2006, 3:42 AM
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1) The type of climbing you do (TR, Sport, Trad, etc)
Mostly trad. Choices of ropes depend heavily on the route.
a) 8.6mm Bluewater Excellence Double Ropes- 60m
b) 9.7mm Bluewater Lightning Pro Single line -70m
c) 9.6mm Laser Edelweiss Single line- 60m
Sport occasionally- usually one of my single ropes, often the 70m so i dont have to think about the lower offs on some of the longer routes i find.
TR rarely.
a) 10.2mm Sterling Marathon- 60m (retired to tr only)
b) 9.7mm Bluewater Lightning Pro- 70m (more often used because of its extra length.
Bigwalls- lots of dreams, but my completed list is ridiculously short.
a) 10mm Mammut Supersafe- 60m
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b) 9mm Mammut Static line- 100m (not yet cut to its final length of roughly 65m)
4) have you ever had a rope failure, please explain.
not personally, although i was climbing with the illustrious Rich D once and watched his rope develop a core shot!
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fitzroy
Jun 30, 2006, 4:21 AM
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1) TR twice a week. Trad/Sport rarely
2)Beal Flyer II
3)10.5cm 60m
4)no
ropes are expensive for me.
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weasel
Jun 30, 2006, 4:27 AM
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1. Trad, and rarely sport
2. Yates Speed Wall (manufactured by Bluewater)
3. 10.3mm x 65m
4. not yet! I'll let you know when I do have a failure though... or my family will.
The thing is 40% sheath, I love it. Good luck with your project.
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double
Jun 30, 2006, 4:38 AM
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-trad and sport
-maxim 10.5 and beal cobra 8.6
-never had, seen, or heard of a failure
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joshy8200
Jun 30, 2006, 5:07 AM
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1. Trad, Sport, TR each rope is used for that purpose in that order.
2/3. 11mm x 40m Sterling Standard, 10.2mm x 50m Sterling Bandit Standard, 10.1mm x 60m Dry Sterling Marathon Pro, 9.4mm x 60m Golden Dry Beal Stinger III
4. No
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angry
Jun 30, 2006, 5:22 AM
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Trad
Edelweis Laser (this is brand new, only used it once)
9.6 X 70m
With the exception of some poor shmuck at a climbing wall, Dan Osmond, and whoever billcoe_ carried out, ropes don't fail. They get shitty, bad hand, sheath slippage, core shots, etc.. but still don't fail.
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pyrrhonota
Jun 30, 2006, 5:29 AM
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1. Trad, TR, Sport
2. Beal
3. 10.5 X60
4. Nope
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fabe
Jun 30, 2006, 6:33 AM
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1. Sport, alpine, ice, mixed, mountaineering
2. Mammut Infinity, Mammut Tusk SD, Mammut Genesis
3. 9.5mm*60m, 9.8mm*70, 2X 8.5mm*60m
4. NO
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sterlingjim
Jun 30, 2006, 12:47 PM
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1) I do all types of climbing and, yes, even bouldering sometimes where I use rope as a crash pad.
2) Guess! OK, OK, usually Sterling prototypes but also many competitor's ropes as well. I rarely use the same rope more than 2 or 3 days.
3) 7mm to 10.5mm. Never more than 10.5; why would I want or need to? Length: anywhere from 25m to 200m.
4) Many times......... on purpose. Edited to say sometimes not on purpose; mostly ice tool hits and rips in sheath from sharp edges.
It's probably not fair for me to participate but it seemed like fun.
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maracas
Jun 30, 2006, 2:17 PM
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1) The type of climbing you do (TR, Sport, Trad, etc)
2) Brand of rope
3) Size of rope (diameter and length)
4) have you ever had a rope failure, please explain.
Ropes 1 and 2
1) Sport
2) Beal Booster
3) 9.7 * 70m
4) No
Ropes 3 and 4
1) Sport
2) Beal Flyer
3) 10.2 * 70m
4) No
Rope 5
1) Gym sport
2) Blue water
3) Around 10.2-10.5 * 50m, I have no clue, it was a present.
4) No, but I have felt core shots in the gym ropes, that is why I am using this one.
Ropes 3 and 4 retired due to age, not damage.
Rope 2 retired to top rope when needed, due to age too.
Rope 5 does not get much use as it is too short for outside use and gym climbing sucks.
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wanderinfree
Jun 30, 2006, 2:26 PM
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1) The type of climbing you do (TR, Sport, Trad, etc)
2) Brand of rope
3) Size of rope (diameter and length)
4) have you ever had a rope failure, please explain.
1) Trad and Sport
2) Rope 1--Maxim Leavittator
Rope 2--Blue Water Lightening Pro
(I use both ropes interchangeably for both types of climbing. Rotate frequently since climb 4-5 days a week.)
3) Rope 1--9.8mm, 60 m
Rope 2--9.7mm, 60 m
4) Nada. Though my Maxim Leavittator is showing some sheath slippage.
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bobruef
Jun 30, 2006, 2:27 PM
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1- trad, and the occasional clipfest
2- Edelweiss Axis
3- 10.3x60 dry (for the first month or so)
4- Nope
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clymber
Jun 30, 2006, 2:32 PM
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why are ppl acting like its a dumb question to have a rope faliure....seems like most of them think that if the rope breaks its a death fall....why cant it be a fall from a lower hight and need a rescue or be damn lucky and just sprain something....
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climbing123
Jun 30, 2006, 2:36 PM
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Thanks clymber, that was my intention. Keep up the posts everyone. :D
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kiwijason
Jun 30, 2006, 2:37 PM
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1 Trad, Ice, Alpine
2 Beal Cobra II Dry 1/2 Rope
3 8.6mm X 60m (two ropes)
4 No
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angry
Jun 30, 2006, 2:42 PM
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In reply to: 1) I do all types of climbing and, yes, even bouldering sometimes where I use rope as a crash pad. 2) Guess! OK, OK, usually Sterling prototypes but also many competitor's ropes as well. I rarely use the same rope more than 2 or 3 days. 3) 7mm to 10.5mm. Never more than 10.5; why would I want or need to? Length: anywhere from 25m to 200m. 4) Many times......... on purpose. It's probably not fair for me to participate but it seemed like fun.
It's like asking the head of Coors Light what he drinks (secretely Pete Coors has a stash of Fat Tire in a safe only he can access)
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louielouie
Jun 30, 2006, 2:53 PM
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1) Trad, ice, sport, TR
2) Mammut Genesis, Mammut Tusk, Edelrid Skyline
3) 60m 8.5mm, 60m 9.8mm, 35m 11mm
4) No
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forkliftdaddy
Jun 30, 2006, 2:58 PM
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Trad
- PMI, non-dry
- 10.2, 60 m
or
- Beal, dry
- 9.4, 70m
Sport
- Bluewater, non-dry
- 10.3, 52-ish meters (had to chop it off)
Ice
- Mammut, dry
- 8.5, 60m
I've never had any rope failures, but I've seen a couple coreshots from falls over sharp edges (always on the second's end). And on one long descent in the dark without a headlamp, I pretty hosed a rope with crampons. I have climbed on a Metolius Monster rope that had some kind of bend like a limp noodle/sheath stitched through the core manufacturing defect. Scary.
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floating_bottle
Jun 30, 2006, 3:25 PM
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1. Trad, TR, ice
2. Maxxim (Leavittator)
3. 60 m 10.5 mm, dry
4. No failures
Good luck with your project.
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reg
Jun 30, 2006, 4:15 PM
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trad, sport, TR
10.5 X 60 non dry (bluewater accelerator)
no
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buddha_monkee
Jun 30, 2006, 4:18 PM
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1) Sport, some TR
2) Mammut Supersafe
3) 10.2 60m
4) no. knock on wood.
/interesting thread!!
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