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Jul 9, 2006, 10:33 PM
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FORZA ITALIA!
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gogo
Jul 10, 2006, 2:11 AM
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What a way for Zidane to go out, had he kept his cool, the penalty kicks could have gone differently. . .
But he did totally floor Materazzi with that headbutt. I mean nailed him off his feet.
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boondock_saint
Jul 10, 2006, 3:19 AM
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What a shame for Zidane, to go that low and be thrown out of the game 10 minutes before the end of his entire professional career.
France played way better, but they fell apart at the end. What a shame.
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Jul 10, 2006, 5:28 AM
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Damn shame.
While I don´t personally think Zidane is all that great, he had immortality practically handed to him. Captain of the French team, bought for 60 million dollars by Real Madrid, cup after cup, award after award, people loved and idolized him.... leading a flailing France to the World Cup final for the 2nd time in 8 years after no one gave a hoot about them this time... that´s the stuff legends are made of.
You could´ve been great Zinedine, greater than you´d ever had imagined, Platini would´ve been forgotten in your shadow...
Again, damn shame.
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kriso9tails
Jul 10, 2006, 5:48 AM
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I was pulling for Germany from the start, but I lost interest when they were out for the first place match. I saw the first half of the Germany - Italy game and knew it'd be a tight match that could go either way. I went to work before the second half feeling like it'd be alright if Germany lost to this squad because the teams were well matched, just so long as I could see the full game through (I taped the second half). The problem is, I could see the flags from work, so I already knew who had won.
I could have accepted defeat from this Italian team had I been able to watch the game through, but knowing the result of the game just sucked the fun out of the cup for me.
I only caught bits and pieces of the final two games... didn't see either of Schweinsteiger's goals, nor did I see either goal in the final match. Just couldn't get myself into it.
On the bright side for Deutschland, Klose takes the Golden Boot and I believe Podolski was named Best Young Player of the tournament. Not sure if the Golden Ball will go to an Italian or French player (I'd like to think German, but niether of the two candidates seems too likely).
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thomasribiere
Jul 10, 2006, 11:02 AM
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I'm very ashamed of Zidane! While he played pretty good, he acted bad against another player.
What is more incredible is that he he has got the GOlden Ball! Other French players did better than he did and played with more Fair Play...
Congratulations to Italy. They made a great cup with both a very good defense and some great goals. They were just exhausted in the second half yesterday but the French couldn't score.
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tisar
Jul 10, 2006, 11:45 AM
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In reply to: Congratulations to Italy. They made a great cup with both a very good defense and some great goals. They were just exhausted in the second half yesterday but the French couldn't score.
Aaah, Thomas, you're too polite of a loser :D The French were clearly better, hell, they played like from another star! I've seldomly seen such quick and precise passes... Sure the Italians weren't exactly bad, but in the end they were more than lucky to win that final.
Whatever, next WC comes - and there's the European Cup too... (I might add the Champions league, but I guess one will have to wait what Italian club might show up there :twisted: )
And Zidane... :? :roll:
- Daniel
edit to add Zidane :lol: :lol: :lol:
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blonde_loves_bolts
Jul 10, 2006, 6:31 PM
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WTF was up with Zidane getting the Golden Ball award?? Cannavaro was seriously robbed.
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slablizard
Jul 11, 2006, 4:07 PM
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My reconstruction of the Zidane thing.
Materazzi stops ZIdane and pinches his nipple somewhet probably grabbing his shirt
Zidane.." Hey what are you gay or something?"
MATE Yeah sure bring me that slut of your sister and I'll show you how gay I am
ZID What you just said?
MATE That if you bring me your sister I'll show you what slut she his..
...Just My opinion watching this video
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boondock_saint
Jul 11, 2006, 4:17 PM
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Well I saw the pinch but I also heard that he insulted him. Meh. It was unprofessional, but well deserved I think.
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slablizard
Jul 11, 2006, 4:23 PM
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Still he's an idiot for getting a red card at the end of a World Cup...letting down his team and his country..lol He'll be remembered for that.
But in the end who cares. We have the cup, that's what matters.
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boondock_saint
Jul 11, 2006, 4:50 PM
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I agree he should have not let his team down, but france has already forgiven him (or so i hear).
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slablizard
Jul 11, 2006, 10:17 PM
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From MSNBC
It was downright sabotage, is what it was. Here was the team’s superstar, its choreographer, heading down the stretch of a championship game that could go either way, maybe to France. And then he ruined everything, booted the happy ending way, way out of bounds.
Italy won itself a tiebreaker, finally, captured its fourth World Cup title on kicks, 5-4, after a 1-1 tie. The Italians had earned this one, for sure. They knocked in all their penalties, without a hint of the usual psychic meltdown. They were certainly the best team in the tournament, and probably the better side on this night.
It’s funny how these tiebreakers always seem so arbitrary, yet always go to the more formidable side. It’s happened with Brazil in 1994, and it happened to Italy against France in a losing cause at the European championships in 2000.
But the title match was still up for grabs on Sunday, when Zidane knocked the air right out of his team in overtime. He had this chance to leave a champion, and instead disappeared into a dark tunnel filled with grave questions about his sanity and sportsmanship. He never came out to join the closing ceremonies, to congratulate or console opponents or teammates.
The evening had begun more hopefully for Zidane. He’d scored early on, in the seventh minute, on a cute little penalty kick, becoming only the fourth player to manage goals in two separate World Cup finals. Zidane coyly waited for Gianluigi Buffon to dive right and then lobbed the ball straight ahead, against the crossbar and down across the line.
He very nearly scored the winner in overtime, a header saved with one desperate hand by Gianluigi Buffon in the 104th minute.
And then, as he has done before when things are not going so well, Zidane went a little bonkers. Forced to the wings by Italy’s defenders, tired of the physical marking he’d received, Zidane head-butted Materazzi in the chest, knocking him flat.
This was a blatant, stupid foul in the 110th minute, and not the first time he’d done something so loony. Zidane had committed the same foul a half dozen years ago when he was playing for Juventus in the Champions League, another head butt against Hamburg. He’d stomped on a Saudi player at the 1998 World Cup, getting suspended then for two matches.
There were hints of his anger, just minutes before the head butt. Zidane had given a ball back to Italy, as required by etiquette, but he purposely knocked it out along the sideline for a difficult throw-in, rather than kick it to Buffon. This infuriated the Italians.
Moments later, he was backpedaling with Materazzi, far from the ball, exchanging a little trash talk, when the madness overtook him. He made no attempt to disguise the head butt, which was seen not by the referee, Horacio Elizondo, but by a referee’s assistant, a linesman.
Elizondo consulted with the linesman, then showed the red card to Zidane, as was required. After surviving 10 minutes shorthanded, France was without four of its top penalty kick takers—due to substitutions, injuries and that red card. Zidane, Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira and Franck Ribery were all on the bench, or in the shower.
“You could see the Italian team obviously was waiting for the penalty kicks,” Domenech said.
That tiebreaker was close, anyway. There wasn’t a single save by either goalkeeper, Buffon or Fabien Barthez. David Trezeguet, one of France’s most experienced and able players, slammed his shot into the crossbar. It bounced straight down, then out.
That was all the breathing room Italy needed. Fabio Grosso put away the winner, the clinching fifth penalty. Italy grabbed the trophy, slid and dashed and danced around to celebrate its first title in 24 years.
Zidane was nowhere to be found. He had turned a fairy tale into a nightmare, with one heavy-headed nod of the noggin. He was Rodman, not Jordan.
Filip Bondy writes regularly for MSNBC.com and is a columnist for the New York Daily News
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thomasribiere
Jul 12, 2006, 7:36 PM
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In reply to: He was Rodman, not Jordan.
Dennniiiiiiisssssssssssss RODMAN! Oh how I was a fan of the NBA!
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blonde_loves_bolts
Jul 12, 2006, 9:06 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: He was Rodman, not Jordan. Pretty good comparison! Dennniiiiiiisssssssssssss RODMAN! Oh how I was a fan of the NBA!
I was thinking more along the lines of Ron Artest...
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slablizard
Jul 12, 2006, 9:54 PM
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Zizou apologies...but he would do it again.
Funny that the crucifixed Totti for spitting to an opponent but they make Zidane look like a victim, and a hero, almost hinting that they (the French) deserved to win. Talk about dirty tactics.
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caughtinside
Jul 12, 2006, 10:12 PM
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In reply to: Talk about dirty tactics.
I read an article that makes it sounds like those greasy eye-talians invented dirty tactics. :P I don't know what that guy said, but it must have been bad. I bet you FIFA comes down hard on him.
Watching Zidane play was the highlight of the tournament for me.
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slablizard
Jul 12, 2006, 10:41 PM
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Welol it's obvious that Matarazzi insulted him, I believe regardingf his sister and or his wife, but he reacted like a punk and deserved what happened next.
Cannavaro should have got the award as best player, looks like they voted for ZZ before the end of the game...kind of like writing a movie critic before the end of the movie? ;)
In reply to: In reply to: Talk about dirty tactics. I read an article that makes it sounds like those greasy eye-talians invented dirty tactics. :P I don't know what that guy said, but it must have been bad. I bet you FIFA comes down hard on him. Watching Zidane play was the highlight of the tournament for me. |
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caughtinside
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In reply to: Welol it's obvious that Matarazzi insulted him, I believe regardingf his sister and or his wife, but he reacted like a punk and deserved what happened next.
I'm just messing with ya slabby.
But I do think it raises another issue: Is it ok for players to use racist slurs on the soccer field to mess with their opponents? Is it ok to call someone of arab descent a dirty terrorist in the context of a game of soccer?
Yeah, Zidane deserved the red card for the head butt. But if Matarazzi said a few of the things that people speculate he did, I think he should get more.
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slablizard
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I think this is the first time in my life I'm actually talking about soccer. Amazing.
No it's not ok, absolutely, but ZZ mentioned "his women" referring to wife mom and sister I guess, he didn't mentioned any racial insult. As for messing up with opponents...again I'm not an expert , but I would be surprised if that's something new. Piss off your opponent to distract him? I guess it always happened..in every sport I guess.
Yosemite in 2 days :)
In reply to: In reply to: Welol it's obvious that Matarazzi insulted him, I believe regardingf his sister and or his wife, but he reacted like a punk and deserved what happened next. I'm just messing with ya slabby. But I do think it raises another issue: Is it ok for players to use racist slurs on the soccer field to mess with their opponents? Is it ok to call someone of arab descent a dirty terrorist in the context of a game of soccer? Yeah, Zidane deserved the red card for the head butt. But if Matarazzi said a few of the things that people speculate he did, I think he should get more. |
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