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timpanogos
Sep 6, 2002, 1:27 AM
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For those of you not familiar with the SLC area: The following quote is from "Hiking the Wasatch" the bible for hikers in SLC.
"Cottonwood Ridge (No. MS-7)
Mount Superior to Dromedary
This knife-edged ridge is a seldom-visited part of the Twin Peaks Wilderness.
The south side drops steeply into Little Cottonwood Canyon, and the south
approaches are limited to the Cardiff Pass route to Mount Superior, the South
Ridge of Superior (a technical climb described in Gottman's Wasatch Quartzite,
and Tanners Gulch. This ridge passes above the branches of Lake Blanche Fork
and can be reached at several points from the Big Cottonwood side.
This section of the Cottonwood Ridge contains difficult scrambling over and
around pinnacles and involves about 1300 feet of ascent and descent in 1-3/4
miles. Progress is agonizingly slow but the purpose of a mountainering route is
adventure."
As an example, the The following can be found on www.WasatchMountainClub.org's
website (the publisher of "Hiking the Wasatch") for a regularly scheduled
"hike". You will find one just like it every month through the summer.
"JUL 28 SUN DAY HIKE: MONTE CRISTO AND MOUNT SUPERIOR (MSD). Hike high above
Little Cottonwood Canyon with Julie Kilgore (518-7563). This hike has some
exposed scrambling. Meet Julie at the Little Cottonwood Canyon Park and Ride
lot at 7:15 AM for a 7:30 AM departure."
Some exposed - yea I'd say 1300' is some exposure and thats droping from 11,040' to 9740'.
It's a way cool and intense "hike" for sure.
Chad
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daggerx
Sep 6, 2002, 2:11 AM
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This really makes you think, he the climber that died paid the ultimate price for something he loved to do. Are you willing to pay it, if not you may want to reconsider climbing ect... For me I excepted this many many years ago, now I am not at all afarid to die, I just hope I dont die for a long time. Butatleast he died doing something he loved thats the way I want to go, I want to go climbing, bull riding, white water yaking ect...
DaggerX
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justsendingits
Sep 6, 2002, 10:52 AM
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Don't really know what to say!!--My sympathy goes out to friends an family,and all climbers that are sad!!
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dantman
Sep 6, 2002, 11:48 AM
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my condolences to his family and friends
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threefox
Sep 6, 2002, 11:12 PM
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I just returned from BD and I spoke with a friend about this incident. I have been debating if I wanted to post it or not.
I decided to post this based on how different the truth varies from the press and rumors. I also based my decission on how angry some of the post related to this incident have made me.
This comes from a well respected source so I have no reason to doubt it at all. I will try to tell it the same way he did as to remove anymore discredit.
My friend had spoken to Andrew shortly after the incident occured.
Andrew had told him that they had been trail running when the accident happened. They were just exercising/training not climbing or anything of that nature.
The area they were in was very familiar to both of them as they ran the same course quite often. (I was told that it appeared they ran this area weekly if not more.)
Andrew said that they were not on any technical terrain when Daniel sliped. (I was told that the impression my friend had been given is that they were probably moving at a pretty good speed.)
I don't know who was leading but Daniel some how lost his footing and began to slide down the incline. Eventually something happened to cause him to begin cart wheeling and tumbling head over heals. During the course of the fall Daniel struck his head on at least one boulder causing serious injury. (I was given the impression that the head injury was the fatal wound)
Andrew estimated he reached his friend within 2 minutes. (I was told that because Andrew is in such great shape. The 2 minutes would have taken at least 5 or more for anyone else.)
Andrew had said that he believed if Daniel had not started to tumble he would have been fine.
It appears that everyone has it wrong. These were just two very in shape and experienced outdoorsmen out for a run. One that they had done numerous times before.
Adam
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tylerphillips
Sep 12, 2002, 1:19 AM
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dirtbag
Sep 16, 2002, 6:18 AM
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Life gives way to death at moments unexpected and tragic, but we all float the same river and fall into the same oblivion. Those that walk the knife edge are just more aware of this eternal truth - that slipping from our mortal coil is not so far off as some might think. Revel in your time now, for oblivion will come to you someday soon as well.
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samshafer
Sep 16, 2002, 7:05 AM
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Wow this is just too terrible & spooky. I was driving thru SLC late Tuesday & looking for a place to camp before coming on to Southern CA. Considered Cottonwood canyon because my friend ClimberCam had mentioned it but decided to get a little further away from the city to avoid morning traffic. Was planning to stay @ Cottonwood a day or 2 en route back to WY but now I don't know.
Doesn't improve my mood that I fell here in JT on my first climb (before clipping). I've always heard that more climbers get hurt/killed on approaches, trails, etc than ever do on technical rock.
He was my age, as well. I think the last line of the news story said it all, "He left behind a wife & 4 children".
My condolences not only to his family but to the whole SLC climbing community. This has got to be hard on all of you as well.
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crazygrl
Sep 16, 2002, 7:58 PM
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my prayers go out to his friends and family Dan was a good friend to the people who knew him..2 of my friends were very close to him...
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billp
Sep 20, 2002, 7:10 PM
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the only thing you have left out is the story of how the guy originally hooked up with andrew - he essentially just showed up one day and asked if he could go dawn patrolling. Amazing balls - like walking up to alex lowe and going "hi guys, mind if i come to antarctica with you"... he worked hard, and learned a lot - was in many ways living the dream of almost any climber. we're probably all one stumble away.
-bill
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