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zeke_sf


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but I appreciate I nice opportunity to get splenic :)
Details please. Crag? Routes?

Sorry for promoting thread drift. OK, not really.

eh...I'm not looking to confront said douchebag via cyberspace. let's just say it's in the Bay Area since you could probably figure that out already. hell, maybe the guy just as randomly didn't like me. that's a right I hold sacrosant, actually: the right to randomly hate people. just because...


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At the moment he said "why are you laughing?" it wasn't a joke anymore but a heavy-handed attempt to humiliate..Some people are good at extricating themselves from these situations verbally, some are not..For those who are not, I'd say about a year's worth of Gracie jiu-jitsu and kickboxing training ought to give you the confidence to look the guy straight in the eye and say "get the fuck outta here"...

At which point I predict he'll quickly try to say he was just joking..


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eh...I'm not looking to confront said douchebag via cyberspace. let's just say it's in the Bay Area since you could probably figure that out already.
Wasn't trying to instigate. I imagine he could already figure it out. Just curious about where it was & which routes.


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[quote="csproul"]slowness... Each of those two has likely been climbing longer than you have been alive, and have probably put up many of the routes that you enjoy and have also installed much of the hardware that you clip and/or rappel from (quote]

Key word here is SLOWNESS......Steve O., Jim S.?????????????

You boys been gettin' at 'er???? I hear that Viagra stuff is pretty potent :twisted: :twisted:

I would like to see (not that anyone reading this thread gives a sh*t) an anchor be placed down on the sloping ledge above the top of Wailing Wall and below the current rap station over Quaker State. WW is such a great moderate route and as it should, attracts many novice leaders who have no business traversing that VERY exposed 10 feet to the current station. Hell, I still ask for a hip belay once in a while for that move, one false step :shock:

I spoke with Tim F. about this a while back and he seemed to like the idea, and I have a couple spare hex's.................


John


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douchebagery

I have only lived in NC for 2 months and it is one of the most "clique-ish" climbing areas I have ever been to. Unless you suck the dicks of people who have been around for a while they don't even give you a second glance. If people have made an investment into a crag which is public property they should not look for any thanks. What are there 15 total bolts at Moore's anyway? No one deserves my respect they need to earn it like everyone else.

Oh I forgot to say trad climbing is so sweet and so is mixed climbing, that has 9 bolts and requires two pieces of gear but those extra two bolt would be an eye sore. Oh yeah and let us not make up to date guide books because for some reason locals don't like that??? Instead lets sell people out-of-date guidebooks with no gear beta which leads them to lichen covered routes. Can I be in the cool people clique now?

At least there is a bunch of good bouldering.

You make such a sweeping asessment of NC climbing and climbers, while only having been here 2 months! Wow! Why waste such piercing insight here... your vision is a sleeping giant!


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Here's to you Mister Original Poster Guy for prompting organic to create the word "douchbaggery" and making me want a cold beer....


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I have only lived in NC for 2 months and it is one of the most "clique-ish" climbing areas I have ever been to.

Welcome to the greatest climbing state in the Eastern US. I am sorry you feel this way.

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Unless you suck the dicks of people who have been around for a while they don't even give you a second glance.

Maybe no one gives you a second glance because they're too busy climbing instead of complaining.

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If people have made an investment into a crag which is public property they should not look for any thanks. What are there 15 total bolts at Moore's anyway? No one deserves my respect they need to earn it like everyone else.

OK fair enough people have to earn your respect. Likewise, you have to earn theirs. Posting wise ass crap like that probably isn't going to get much from anyone.

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Oh I forgot to say trad climbing is so sweet and so is mixed climbing, that has 9 bolts and requires two pieces of gear but those extra two bolt would be an eye sore.

:roll:

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Oh yeah and let us not make up to date guide books because for some reason locals don't like that???


The Shull/Lambert guide came out in 2002. This is a state with a lot of rock. Ever tried to write a guidebook yourself? A bouldering guide to Rumbling Bald is in the works and a 2 vol guidebook of all NC is in the workings.


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Here's to you Mister Original Poster Guy for prompting organic to create the word "douchbaggery" and making me want a cold beer....

Not to take away from Organic... I will give him the "Good Word Choice" award. However, that's an old one:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/...p?term=douchebaggery


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douchebagery- nice

The guy had to have been joking or he was just like "hey guys ima f--- with this dude right here, its gonna be hilarious"


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douchebagery- niceeee

the dude had to have benn jokeing or he was juts like "hey guys ima f--- with this dude right here right here, its gonna be hilarios"


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Wowz Meddlehed, youz better stayz in skoolz broh. Edumacation willz halpz youz lern ow too spelz.


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Here's to you Mister Original Poster Guy for prompting organic to create the word "douchbaggery" and making me want a cold beer....

I love those ads :lol:


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Somebody posted a link with all the radio versions of those commercials (or at least a lot of them) a while back. I swore I bookmarked it. Can't find it. Anyone still have it? provided some good laughs.


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Wowz Meddlehed, youz better stayz in skoolz broh. Edumacation willz halpz youz lern ow too spelz.

my bad i dident even look at it haha

ill fix it for you hows that! :)


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I have recently found that the been climbing longer than you've been alive type of climbers have a wickedly dry sense of humor. I wouldn't say this is a rule of thumb, but perhaps an asterisk in a guide book would suffice?
*area frequented by older climbers commonly known to harrass others with dry, sarcastic humor.

Of course, I also managed to meet a guy who was obviously under the impression that Born in the USA had been released only a few weeks ago. No joke, this guy was dressed in a red bandana, white linen shirt (unbuttoned, but tucked in) and seemed to be doing a great impression of air guitar when dyno-ing for holds that could be reached static. Aside from his constant attempts to get others to take pictures and/or video, I don't think we'll be seeing him in Dosage V.


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I have recently found that the been climbing longer than you've been alive type of climbers have a wickedly dry sense of humor. I wouldn't say this is a rule of thumb, but perhaps an asterisk in a guide book would suffice?
*area frequented by older climbers commonly known to harrass others with dry, sarcastic humor.

I would have chalked it up to an overly dry sense of humor or someone without great people skills. Sometimes people try to ride out a lame joke rather than letting it go, and that rarely ends well. I doubt it would have bothered me much past the moment. Presented with that much badgering, I would have asked for a higher fee for rope inspection during my rappel and left it at that.


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My Contract Lawyer Side: there was never a contract to pay for the act of using the rope to rappell because you were already rapping down when they decided to charge $5, therefore there was no consideration when the act commenced. Can't be charging people after they do something without telling them you're going to charge them!

Heh, I thought the same thing. And telling him that, followed by the words 'and if you don't get the hell out of here I'm gonna take your a-- to court' would all but guarantee a very quick 'hey man, we were just joking.'


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There's a difference between an intelligent, dry sense of humor and being a sadistic asshole..Once the guy saw the target of his "humor" was in obvious distress he should have said "hey I'm just joking, have a good one man..", not walked away without saying a word..

Maybe after he f*cks with the wrong guy and gets his face smashed in he won't think it's so funny..


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There's a difference between an intelligent, dry sense of humor and being a sadistic asshole..Once the guy saw the target of his "humor" was in obvious distress he should have said "hey I'm just joking, have a good one man..", not walked away without saying a word..

Maybe after he fucks with the wrong guy and gets his face smashed in he won't think it's so funny..

Were you there? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but we're only heard one side of the story so far. Another guy at the crag (that admittedly didn't hear the conversation) replied to indicate the OP misrepresented a few things. I don't doubt the OP's perspective, but I don't think we can assume motivation on the other guy's part. Neither one of them played it the way that I would have, but that's not really the issue.

This is the second time in this thread that you've offered violence as a solution to the situation. That's more of a concern to me than a joke gone awry or someone being an asshole (which I've found is a pretty universal trait from time to time). Maybe we live in different worlds, but I haven't had to use my fists to resolve an issue in over half my lifetime. Call me an idealistic pacifist, but that's on the bottom of my list of conflict resolution skills.


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I WANT MY TEN DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:


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A good friend of mine once said, "Ok guys quit slappin your dicks on the table."


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Don't be naive, violence is an inherent part of life, whether it be physical or just the emotional violence this guy inflicted on his target..

Re: my first post..The increased confidence that one projects when they're capable of defending themselves physically would be helpful to the OP in avoiding this kind of crap in the future. Once somebody starts acting like this towards him, he's already in a lose-lose situation..He's gonna feel like crap if he doesn't react and he might get his ass kicked if he does..Yes some people are Zen-masters who can just ignore it and feel fine, but I don't think he's at that stage..

Re: my second post ..Should someone smash the guy's face over this kind of verbal violence and intimidation? Well, for the most part I agree with the fact that our legal system wouldn't condone it.. But I wouldn't mind it if someone did it and got away with it..Sometimes it's the only way to get pricks like this to stop their crap..

Ideally physical violence should only be used in clear-cut self-defense but sometimes you don't have that luxury..I'd rather hire a good lawyer and have him explain to a jury why I felt myself to be in imminent danger of great bodily harm and smashed one guy in the face with a #3 cam when two of them were rushing towards me than to wake up a day later in the hospital all f*cked up..

But I'd appreciate other viewpoints and stories related to such issues, other than just ignoring the possibility of physical violence..The other party may not have such scruples..


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"douchbaggery" is now my favorite word...thank you rc.com


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I am with puerto violence is always the best solution. especially when the locals just make fun of your yankee accent! I'm from Chicago bitches, reprahsent.

A re-enactment if it was me:

Guy: That will be $5.
Me: How 'bout I give you a five knuckle sandwich biatch.
Guy: hahaha I was just jok.....*smack*
Me: you bitches ain't got nothin' on me, boulderer4Lyfe


The End


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A re-enactment if it was me:

Guy: That will be $5.
Me: How 'bout I give you a five knuckle sandwich biatch.
Guy: hahaha I was just jok.....*smack*
Me: you b---- ain't got nothin' on me, boulderer4Lyfe

:)

Only one knuckle sandwich? Why not all-you-can-eat?

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