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Partner tim


Dec 19, 2006, 10:11 PM
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angry wrote:
This isn't go to be pretty

A long time ago, more or less before the interwebs, there was wreck.climbing.

And Russ was there, and lo, shit were TIGHT:

http://groups.google.com/...m=2#a225bedb448d7203

In reply to:
> Nice to see A5/TNF using such upstanding people in their organization.
> Maybe these sorts will give the "TNF Dream Team" the hard edge they seek
> instead of just polluting the local campus with pricey jackets.
> Criminal activity, even in a TNF jacket, is not something to be proud
> of, nor to trumpet to the world in the hopes of being "rad". Osman is
> out of control and as his friend you should find him some help.
> Dave


Say Dave......a guy in a FISH T-Shirt killed a drifter once just to get
an erection. I thought that was pretty "rad".
Russ
(PS: nice Dano story. I bet this is one of his mild ones)

Mind you, this was Russ standing up for his COMPETITION.


thomasribiere


Dec 19, 2006, 10:53 PM
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ahah; I will order the resusable model. SO other climbers can use it and trust it : if it worked for me, it will work for them!


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From Fish's web site:

In reply to:
Another reason is putting your money behind a real climbing company with real people who appreciate your business and depend on your continued business in order to eat dinner tomorrow. You think the CEO of The North Face gives two shakes whether you buy a ledge? Don't count on it.

Looks like Russ is going to have to change that particular mission statement.

How about, "another reason is putting your money into a real climbing company run by a real climber who really couldn't care less whether you get what you pay for and is happy to say so to your face or on the internet.

You think the CEO of Fish gives two shakes whether you pay for a ledge? Of course he does. He depends on your business to eat dinner tomorrow. He couldn't care less whether you actually get a ledge because that doesn't affect him at all, in fact it's cheaper for him to just not bother".


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j_ung wrote:
Cheers back, and FWIW, I haven't lost all respect for you. I'll miss your reviews, but if makes you happier, I think stepping down was a good choice... a choice I respect.

Dayum Jay...

After a lengthy personal attack, you come back with a public proclamation basically saying "gee willakers, I think you're swell".

Yeeeeck!


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thorne wrote:
j_ung wrote:
Cheers back, and FWIW, I haven't lost all respect for you. I'll miss your reviews, but if makes you happier, I think stepping down was a good choice... a choice I respect.

Dayum Jay...

After a lengthy personal attack, you come back with a public proclamation basically saying "gee willakers, I think you're swell".

Yeeeeck!

[Sinatra]Regrets... I've had a few...[/Sinatra]


thomasribiere


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oh! thorne!


markc


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tradman wrote:
From Fish's web site:

In reply to:
Another reason is putting your money behind a real climbing company with real people who appreciate your business and depend on your continued business in order to eat dinner tomorrow. You think the CEO of The North Face gives two shakes whether you buy a ledge? Don't count on it.

Looks like Russ is going to have to change that particular mission statement.

How about, "another reason is putting your money into a real climbing company run by a real climber who really couldn't care less whether you get what you pay for and is happy to say so to your face or on the internet.

You think the CEO of Fish gives two shakes whether you pay for a ledge? Of course he does. He depends on your business to eat dinner tomorrow. He couldn't care less whether you actually get a ledge because that doesn't affect him at all, in fact it's cheaper for him to just not bother".

I thought I'd point out a little blurb you (or the OP's friend) might have missed:

In reply to:
Need a ledge??? ORDER NOW AND WE AIN'T KIDDING!!!! If you plan on having a FISH ledge this summer, order quick. A5/Anker has tossed in the towel and that means your choices are once again limited... this means we will be selling more ledges. This means your wait could be long and painful, like months. Get your order in now for Summer!

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want someone to cash my check and not send my order shortly thereafter. It sounds like the orderer received the ledge without the fly, which is a bit of a different story. If this announcement was on Russ' site when the guy ordered, it sounds like fair warning. I don't know what has gone on outside of this thread, but Russ has offered a refund. From all accounts, it sounds like you need to be patient if you're ordering Fish products. Again, I don't think that's unknown to most people. I don't know Russ, and I'm not trying to defend him. I just think some of you are going over the deep end.


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Dec 20, 2006, 8:16 PM
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http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=295397

Bump.


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devils_advocate wrote:
Wow, Battle Royal. First Sentinel jumps in to the ring and calls out Fish products, in true WWF sh!t-talking fashion. Russ runs out of the audience and hops into the ring for a little squaring off. After a couple a minutes the crowd grows restless and jumps in on the action, pouncing on Sentinel. Reno steps in to ref, tries to throw a yellow card and a little mano a mano erupts between him and Dingus. The camera pans back to the gang fight on Sentinel for awhile when J_ung runs into the ring and hits Dingus over the back with a folding chair.

Man, Monday Night Smackdown... intense. I want some action. [DA looks around for an innocent bystander, spots Pmyche minding his own business]. You... yeah you, Pmyche... ummmm, “You suck”.

I think I'll get me some popcorn and see if a hockey game breaks out...


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sentinel wrote:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=295397

Bump.

you bumped this why? you're getting reamed out by both Fish AND your friend that you fucked over LOL

I don't think Fish owes these guys anything other than his money back and a wave good bye. people who resort to personal attacks and threats of violence should not expect anything more.


boombewm


Dec 21, 2006, 2:52 AM
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have you noticed this thread has been hijacked?


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Hey Russ, if you end up sending this guy a refund...I hope you whipe your ass with the receipt before you send it to him!

What a douche! If your gonna rip on a company, structure your argument so it doesn't come across like a fuckin temper-tantrum. Your anger and threats make me doubt every last thing you've said.

To those that doubt Russ, just take a look at the info that he's posted and keeps on his site.

I bet your having a hard time drinkin' all those beers people are buying you now!

As for stopping somone at the porch...might I suggest the Benelli M4? http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/m4.tpl

Cheers,
Jim


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hmmmm.....

T6?


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I'm just happy to see all the anger, hostility, humor, abuse, fun and games not being leveled at me for a change. Keep up the good work.

Joe


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sentinel wrote:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=295397

Bump.

Right on! Bhhhhuuuummmmpppp! dude

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=295397&msg=297275#msg297275

DMT


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madrock wrote:
I'm just happy to see all the anger, hostility, humor, abuse, fun and games not being leveled at me for a change. Keep up the good work.

Joe

jimdavis to thread!!! jimdavis to thread!!!

Just wait, you'll have your turn.


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jakedatc wrote:

I don't think Fish owes these guys anything other than his money back and a wave good bye. people who resort to personal attacks and threats of violence should not expect anything more.

WELL 4 MONTHS IS A LONG TIME!

Realisticaly, I hope Russ is telling these folks the lenght of time a transaction on one of these could take, I'd want to get them both shipped at the same time too.
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On another rant:

I've been thinking of ordering a FISH chalkbag for over 5 months now, seriously thinking about it I mean, and haven't heard a damn thing about it from Fish. No phone calls and e-mails.

I would have a pair of Russian Aiders too but he still hasn't made the hooks. I have been thinking about ordering these for almost a year now cause the aiders are so beautiful.

This is just fuc&*ed up consumerism.

Both Ujahn and I could have used a pair 4 weeks ago when we got our asses kicked all over the Monkey Face in 30+ MPG winds and in freezing temps too. Since I haven't gottne around to ordering the stuff for so long, you'd have thought I'd have heard from SOMEBODY at Fish. Well, maybe his thread is a good start.


Big Rant: How come Mowz got rid of the Mowz beer keg dancers anyway? This site is going to hell I tell you.

Now....what were we discussing?

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sentinel wrote:
blahblahblah

Some Chris Miller's play football and have a half decent NFL career. Some climb and just get more sorry ass the fatter and balder he gets.


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billcoe_ wrote:
....when we got our asses kicked all over the Monkey Face in 30+ MPG winds and in freezing temps ....

You obviously weren't driving your SUV on that face. Cool Next time bring the Hummer or something else that gets less than 30+ MPG and you should get blown around less.


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angry wrote:
madrock wrote:
I'm just happy to see all the anger, hostility, humor, abuse, fun and games not being leveled at me for a change. Keep up the good work.

Joe

jimdavis to thread!!! jimdavis to thread!!!

Just wait, you'll have your turn.

haha, no, if I wanted to do that I'd just bump that thread back up to the top. Laugh

Besides I've already been watching this thread for a while...not gonna hijack a totally un-related thread.

The difference here is most people are speaking up for Russ. Wink

Cheers,
Jim


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I feel so much better now. Cool.

Joe


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jimdavis wrote:


The difference here is most people are speaking up for Russ. Wink

Cheers,
Jim

So you're on the bandwagon. Nice job.


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Any update on this? Did Santa bring Sentinel's buddy a ledge for Christmas or just a big lump of coal? Or perhaps a switch kick in the junk? Not that I am promoting violence; but I'm just sayin...

N.


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Coal.
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BTW, I've was thinking of ordering some Valley Giants from Tom Kasper.

And I did it.

Now that's consumer service!


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  This thread is just what I needed to get me off my ass. I am healing from shoulder surgery that will never allow my free climbing level to advance beyond what it currently is. This has me getting ready to do some grade VI stuff starting in summer 08 and I know I will not purchase the big wall stuff anywhere else, and for good reason.
I will need a ledge to sleep on but the fly will be to save my life, or at least a visit from Warner B. When the shit hits the fan I want my safety gear made by someone who has my best interest at heart,(read only proper materials), and not just a sale, read(fast service of a fly that may or may not hold off a storm on a big rock). I am more interested in never getting my ass dead than having my shit in the garage just hanging around to show off for my buddies to oooh and aaah at. I would rather sweat it out on a 9 month wait, down to a last minute deadline, to get a good working piece, maybe even ugly colors, make that definitely ugly colors, Cause I know Russ is good to his word on deadlines, if he says you'll have it by then I trust that he will make it happen. Just the type of guy his friends know that he is. When it hits the fan, this is the equipment I want sheltering me from the beyond, not some fast good looking, maybe weather proof fashionable ledge, made in who knows where by who knows what kind of craftsman.
When the money gets freed up this spring Russ will see my order and if he says I'll have my stuff i will just bite the bullet with my wants and just put in the wait that it takes to get the right equipment. Thanks Sentinel for being such a big mouthed bad friend to your buddy and helping me get my stuff ordered soon enough for the 08 season.
Probably even going to have to get a bottle in the mail too, what kind of booze was it he likes, ( No strings attached here Russ), just like to lube the friction.
Bob

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