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Jul 16, 2004, 11:17 PM
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Chongo......self proclaimed slowest wall climber and the king of the big wall hitchhikers !!!!!
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tigerbythetail
Jul 17, 2004, 12:55 AM
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cgranite
Jul 17, 2004, 1:56 AM
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That pack he carries weighs like 80 pounds and that's not counting his laptop and shoulder pack.
I over heard him saying that he was going to write some children books. I will be interested to read that.
What would a Chongo children’s book be like?
...so the Hair is actually going slower than the Tortes...
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areyoumydude
Jul 17, 2004, 11:39 PM
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He's your best friend if you have a sack of weed. :lol: :lol: No really he puts the dirt in dirt bag. Chongo is a living legend.... cough cough.
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far_east_climber
Jul 18, 2004, 1:44 AM
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what about when he was a kid/teenager? where'd he live then? what'd he do?
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bvb
Jul 20, 2004, 4:07 PM
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[quote="tigerbythetail"]In reply to: There's an old cartoon from Mountain Magazine that has them and Dick Cilley in it. The Chango Bros are living in a totally wrecked campsite and then the Park Service detonates a nuke to clear the site; Dick C. is lurking in the shadows trying to sell some gear.
that was a hysterical cartoon strip. don't remember the issue number, but it appeared in one of the 1986 issues of rock and ice -- just after spring break -- prolly the june/july issue.
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watusi
Jul 21, 2004, 4:52 AM
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Yeah the unnamed other chongo bro was Mick, and I lived with Chuck, Dave and Rich for many seasons at the crags and it was Chuck who brought his brothers out to Josh to learn to climb with me!
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dee
Aug 17, 2004, 11:09 PM
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Thanks Watusi, I was having a hard time remembering Rich although I climbed with him more than once.
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devin
Oct 22, 2004, 3:06 AM
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chongo you are my heroooooo! wooo
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organic
Oct 22, 2004, 3:28 AM
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I read part of chongo's book on quantum physics some of the stuff is good some of the stuff he smoked copious amounts of weed during. Some of the stuff he writes about is flawed though but I do not think most people buy it for knowledge they buy the books to give him an income! Long live the chongo!
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justsendingits
Mar 2, 2005, 9:58 AM
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In reply to: I have heard of him, real hardcore climber, real stinky hippie. Sounds like a cool bloque. I found a years-old gear cache under El Cap last spring, most of the stuff was way-past too rotten and old to use, but a few of the cams and biners looked decent, so I nabbed them. I brought them home and examined them closely and there was the name "CHONGO" etched into them. Thanks buddy. Sorry if I harked your stash, but it was so damn old (and didn't you recently get in some trouble over those stashes anyways?)
There are other stashes that I have found over the years but I always left them because they were not mine!!
At least you are honest!! Props for that!!
Chuck is a lot of fun!!!
I left the valley in late July and there was some ranger tooling him, takeing pictures of him and stuff. Then on my last day there(sunday) there was Chuck and Link having it out during the free Coffee.
I think Chuck like all of us gets tooled from time to time.
Couldn't believe that Lincon was giving him a hard time about living in the park though.
I like them both!!
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fatman
Mar 8, 2005, 4:02 AM
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cgranite,
He did write a children's book, or at least some drafts of one. Chongonation is down so I don't know if he's selling it yet. I can't remember the whole story, but it's not exactly bedtime material. Something about a fight between a baboon and a lion where everyone dies.
anyways, i'm sure he'll show it to you when you're there this year
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Mar 8, 2005, 1:27 PM
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While I didn't do more than nod and smile at Chongo, I can affirm that he was still in the Valley in August of '04 riding his bike and generally living the life of a classic dirtbag.
Not a bad thing IMO.
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jtt
Mar 12, 2005, 11:45 PM
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Was it called "Enter the Wild Dog" or was that something else he wrote?
I found him generally likable, but somewhat intimidating. Probably because he found out I was from Alabama and automatically tagged me as a card-carrying Republican with a W sticker on my climbing helmet and my Nalgene (which is not true). Yeah, you might not want to mention that you are from the South.
Saw him slack line a few times. He's very confortable on it, but not really in shape anymore.
jtt
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Mar 13, 2005, 12:40 AM
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In reply to: And, there is one last yet very important thing that you and anyone else that your decisions may affect should consider. How bitchin’ you might be (or better stated, how bitchin’ you might imagine yourself being, however accurate or inaccurate your conclusion) has nothing whatsoever to do with whether you will be the unfortunate fool who dies, or spends the rest of his life in a wheelchair, or simply ends up ‘existing’, drooling in a bed all day long, staring blankly into space. Nature does not care in the least, whether you are bitchin’ or are not bitchin’, any more than it cares if you live or if you die (because the bitchin’ die, no less than the unbitchin’ do – nature is fair in questions of death). Understand this: it’s hard to be bitchin’ when you’re dead, permanently crippled, or in a bed drooling, staring into space, which are all very real possibilities, when you climb.
That's pretty damn funny.
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cgranite
Mar 13, 2005, 2:49 AM
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In reply to: cgranite, He did write a children's book, or at least some drafts of one. Chongonation is down so I don't know if he's selling it yet. I can't remember the whole story, but it's not exactly bedtime material. Something about a fight between a baboon and a lion where everyone dies. anyways, i'm sure he'll show it to you when you're there this year
I'm sure he will. One day I sat for what seemed like hours listening to him ramble on about quantum mechanics and relativity at his table in the lodge. I'll never forget the way he just stares into your eyes, while he periodically eats his gathered fries. Not my idea of good rest day especially when he convinced my friend and I to carry his stuff back to camp. It's not a long ways, but it sure felt far with all that wait.
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In reply to: In reply to: And, there is one last yet very important thing that you and anyone else that your decisions may affect should consider. How b----’ you might be (or better stated, how b----’ you might imagine yourself being, however accurate or inaccurate your conclusion) has nothing whatsoever to do with whether you will be the unfortunate fool who dies, or spends the rest of his life in a wheelchair, or simply ends up ‘existing’, drooling in a bed all day long, staring blankly into space. Nature does not care in the least, whether you are b----’ or are not b----’, any more than it cares if you live or if you die (because the b----’ die, no less than the b----’ do – nature is fair in questions of death). Understand this: it’s hard to be b----’ when you’re dead, permanently crippled, or in a bed drooling, staring into space, which are all very real possibilities, when you climb. That's pretty damn funny.
That's pretty damn true, and funny too.
I would be tempeted to substitute "when you live." for chongo's "when you climb.", cause in reality, life is dangerous enough simply by living it. Sadly enough not everyone lives it.
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lordcaffeine
Jun 21, 2007, 1:05 PM
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His two brothers were way cooler!
Chongo Dave and XXX? used to hang in josh back in the 80s. Chuck would come up from Mexico full of stories about living like a king down south. The Chongo name was the brother's name brand resole rubber. We always thought the dude was full of shit. He couldn't get laid in a whore house with hundred dollar bills hanging out of his pockets. I am personally appalled that he has become some sort of cult figure! I heard through the grape vine that Chongo Dave died. Is it true? RIP if that is a fact.
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Jun 22, 2007, 3:11 PM
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jgill wrote: Has anyone here read Chongo's book on quantum physics?
I have a copy that Jose left for me with some local climbers when he was in Patagonia years ago. I tried reading it through a couple of times, but never finished. Let's just say it's not your typical textbook and it might frustrate some readers who look for a certain mathematical precision. I keep it more for the note Jose left me inside than for any help it gave me at understanding quantum physics. By the way, Jose did study quite a bit of mathematics and some physics, but I'm not sure exactly what hand he had in the book's content.
Tim
(This post was edited by yanqui on Jun 22, 2007, 3:23 PM)
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May 17, 2009, 2:43 AM
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In the 80's and early 90's I was one of the wintertime JTree regulars, and knew the Chongo brothers pretty well. As well as I remember, they were just 'the Chongo Brothers', and noone claimed to be the first or primary chongo. Yep, they sewed and sold climbing pants in wild patterns the Germans loved. Also some crappy fleece jackets. Noone loved them. They also had a treadle sewing machine there under a boulder in a campsite that is now closed. They climbed, but not a lot, and on ropes that I wouldn't tie my dog up to. I'm telling you, they were nothing but rotten sheath and a few cords. You could pinch it between your fingers and feel them touch through the rope! Dave was around more than Chuck...and more likable to me anyway. Anyway, they sort of dropped out of sight after about 1993 or 1994. Anyone have any info on Dave?
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Jun 6, 2009, 6:12 AM
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He's a punk that couldn't climb out of a flatland bivy without a guidebook. 
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Sep 23, 2009, 9:32 PM
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Some dude living under an overpass.
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Nov 27, 2009, 6:13 AM
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Interesying article along with the link.
I want to be a climbing bum!
Long live the CHONGO
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