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So about big bros... I've got a few questions. First, if you're placing them in a vertical crack, would one want to place it with the sling exiting from the top or the bottom of the crack? And secondly, would thin webbing be as good as 5 mil tech cord? I've got some 1/8th inch webbing and it fits through the holes, so I figure that'll do, right?...right?

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So about big bros... I've got a few questions. First, if you're placing them in a vertical crack, would one want to place it with the sling exiting from the top or the bottom of the crack? And secondly, would thin webbing be as good as 5 mil tech cord? I've got some 1/8th inch webbing and it fits through the holes, so I figure that'll do, right?...right?

hosh.


As you fall, near a ton of forces are going to be applied to protections starting with the first pro right below your harness. Do you think your 1/8 cord can handle a ton of weight ?


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Slingage goes at the top of the bro in the crack.

Use tech cord. Asher will thank you later.


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Yeah, figures. I had the sling laying around and thought it might be enough. Oh well, looks like I'll have to get some new cord!

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You can always download the instructions from the trango site.


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I have the papers that came with the bros, I was just wondering if there are any climbers out there with any real world experience that may be different...

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1/8th inch WEBBING ???

That's a third the width of the Mammut Spectra stuff (which can't be tied into any knot that I'm familiar with) Hell, the laces in my approach shoes are wider than 1/8".

Agree with the comment above: RTFM.


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climbinginchico wrote:
Slingage goes at the top of the bro in the crack.

Use tech cord. Asher will thank you later.

I thought tech cord didn't like bending around sharp corners. I am surprised it is the recommended cord for this application.


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microbarn wrote:
climbinginchico wrote:
Slingage goes at the top of the bro in the crack.

Use tech cord. Asher will thank you later.

I thought tech cord didn't like bending around sharp corners. I am surprised it is the recommended cord for this application.

Such was the thinking that prompted some of my thoughts... The webbing that I was using is the same stuff that I've used for lots of other stuff before and it's never been a problem as of yet... I've fallen on hexes that I slung with it.

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hosh wrote:
microbarn wrote:
climbinginchico wrote:
Slingage goes at the top of the bro in the crack.

Use tech cord. Asher will thank you later.

I thought tech cord didn't like bending around sharp corners. I am surprised it is the recommended cord for this application.

Such was the thinking that prompted some of my thoughts... The webbing that I was using is the same stuff that I've used for lots of other stuff before and it's never been a problem as of yet... I've fallen on hexes that I slung with it.

hosh.

it doesnt, but Mal recommends the tech cord- it just means that the bros were tested on it and its recommended.

however, you do have to resling 'em more often than you would with perlon...in fact, i really ought to resling mine one of these days....havent reslung them since i bought them 4 years ago!


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As to the orientation of the big bro, look at it, you'll see which way is right.

As to the cord/webbing issue. The webbing I think you are talking about is probably fine to hang off of and occasionally ooze down to it. It's not super strong but you rarely whip onto a big bro.

I have had problems (on ice tool leashes) with that webbing holding knots, even after bounce tightening they loosen up. For that reason and I personally will probably whip on a big bro, I use the maxim tech cord. It's not cheap. I wish trango would sell them slung or wired.


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I don't know anywhere in this town (it's a rather small town, with a very small climbing population) that carries the right cord. The best is Mammut 5 mil, but that's as good as I could find. Trango recomends 5.5 mil. Ho hum...

hosh.


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I live right next to Boulder, CO and can't get it. Mail order.


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I went to resling an old chiounard hex with 8mm perlon a few weeks ago. Snot nosed kid behind the counter said that i couldn't use that stuff and had to use pricy tech cord. I gave him the old STFU Noooob been climbing longer than you been alive routineCool I suppose the holes in the Big bros are too small to accept 7mm perlon?? Too bad as it is cheaper and better for slinging stuff than tech cord INMOP


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Mail order:

http://backcountrygear.com/...imbdetail.cfm/MAX105

or:

http://mgear.com/.../product.asp/imanf/BlueWater+Ropes/idesc/Titan+Spectra+Cord+%2D+5.5+mm+x+6+m/Store/MG/item/640554/N/1049

either works...


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