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shrug7
Dec 6, 2007, 9:41 PM
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I just picked up the Lowe Alpine attack today. I got it for it's small size & features for multipitch.
Though I don't think you'd get two pair of shoes in it or on it.
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davidparks21
Dec 6, 2007, 10:04 PM
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I would go with the smaller options. I saw one large pack in that list (the third one). Any time someone has ever brought a pack that size it tends to get too heavy and is a real pain to climb with. The height makes it hard for the head to move freely, and it tends to peel the climber off the wall.
If you have 3 people 2 smaller packs is a better option in my opinion, otherwise you just get too much weight for the second to climb with comfortably. With just 2 people the small/medium size packs tend to be big enough for just about everything (sometimes a little squished). I like to bring light shoes like Tivas for the decent if it's less than class 4 - that really reduces weight and bulk.
Good luck!
-Dave
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mistajman
Dec 6, 2007, 11:31 PM
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Hey,
This pack is actually pretty nice, a coworker of mine bought it and has liked it.
http://www.outdoorresearch.com/home/style/home/storage/storage_accessories/34160
http://www.outdoorresearch.com/home/style/home/storage/storage_stuffsacks/36600
or
http://www.nols.edu/store/product.php?productid=16402&cat=285&page=1
(This post was edited by mistajman on Dec 6, 2007, 11:40 PM)
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moose_droppings
Dec 7, 2007, 12:27 AM
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This pack works great for climbing. Rides high and has a slim profile. I use it when climbing quite a ways off the beaten path. I carry my light rack on my chest harness sling. Then in the pack I'll toss in my 30m rope, shoes, harness, shell and food and water for the day. Holds it all and then some. I've put quite a few miles on it using it this way and its still bomber.
http://www.rei.com/...47525?vcat=REI_HP_LD
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ja1484
Dec 7, 2007, 1:50 AM
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You should really turn a hard eye towards lessening whatever you're taking up there. There is absolutely no need for 20+ liters of storage for a climbing pack. I use a CamelBak Rogue with a 2L reservoir and just over 2L of cargo space.
That's plenty of water, and cargo space for headlamp, spare batteries, leatherman, 2x space blankets, matches, Epi-Pen, Benadryl, Guidebook, a couple clif bars. Clip your approach shoes to the rear compression strap and you're done.
The rest should be on your harness/gear sling/attached to you in some form.
Your partner should carry the same (or similar) for all his crap.
In case of rappel, 7-8mm rap line is backpack coiled and worn as such by the second.
I have no idea what you're trucking up there that needs more than 20L, but a large portion has to be unnecessary.
(This post was edited by ja1484 on Dec 7, 2007, 1:52 AM)
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punk_rocker333
Dec 7, 2007, 2:42 AM
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ja, I like climbs with long approaches (in the 10 to 15 mile range) and need at least 3 liters of water per person. I also don't wear my harness/rack while hiking for obvious reasons, and the climbs almost never return to their starting point. That's why I was looking for a 20 to 30 liter pack to store everything. I was also looking at this one:
http://www.camp-usa.com/...ct/detail.asp?ID=238
I figured I could also use it for alpine climbing and general day hiking as well, but am definitley worried about how well I'll be able to climb with it on.
(This post was edited by punk_rocker333 on Dec 7, 2007, 2:45 AM)
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jgivens
Dec 7, 2007, 2:53 AM
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The GoLite Jam. I will never buy another pack again. It cinches down small for wearing while climbing and with small loads, and is big enough for a few days worth of gear. And it weighs almost nothing.
(This post was edited by jgivens on Dec 7, 2007, 2:53 AM)
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ja1484
Dec 7, 2007, 2:55 AM
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punk_rocker333 wrote: ja, I like climbs with long approaches (in the 10 to 15 mile range) and need at least 3 liters of water per person. I also don't wear my harness/rack while hiking for obvious reasons, and the climbs almost never return to their starting point. That's why I was looking for a 20 to 30 liter pack to store everything. I was also looking at this one: http://www.camp-usa.com/...ct/detail.asp?ID=238 I figured I could also use it for alpine climbing and general day hiking as well, but am definitley worried about how well I'll be able to climb with it on.
Whatever floats your boat. With an approach of that length, I hope there's at least camping on-site, but yeah, I can see why you'd want to pack everything. Lot-racking works well if the approach is 1-2hrs at most, but longer term could get pretty uncomfortable.
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eug
Dec 11, 2007, 5:52 PM
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I have been checking out these packs from Millet. Both of them have gear loops on the waist belt and I thought that this might be handy when following somebody on trad.
If you are wearing a harness, the waist belt of the backpack makes clipping gear back on the harness a real pain.
The gear loops on the 35L seemed to better sewn in that the 25L model
http://www.hudsontrail.com/viewItem/19/156/10689/
http://www.hudsontrail.com/viewItem/19/156/10690/
Does anybody else makes backpacks with gear loops on the waist belt?
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lwilson
Dec 11, 2007, 6:13 PM
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eug wrote: I have been checking out these packs from Millet. Both of them have gear loops on the waist belt and I thought that this might be handy when following somebody on trad. If you are wearing a harness, the waist belt of the backpack makes clipping gear back on the harness a real pain. The gear loops on the 35L seemed to better sewn in that the 25L model http://www.hudsontrail.com/viewItem/19/156/10689/ http://www.hudsontrail.com/viewItem/19/156/10690/ Does anybody else makes backpacks with gear loops on the waist belt?
yeah, Osprey does, check out this pack. I own it, and recommend it.
http://www.ospreypacks.com/...reSeries/Exposure42/
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weatherm
Dec 11, 2007, 6:16 PM
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black diamond bullet pack.. its all you need.. skip the guide book and xerox what you need.. laminate
fast and light!
you need a windproof / waterproof jacket hardshell... marmot precip
food / water
tail your shoes on you or just leave them at the base if your rapping down
headlamp
Has a compartment for a camel pack
1000L pack = Bullet Pack
its what I recommend and have used it extensivly.. works great for me for up to 6 -7 pitches.
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jestering
Dec 11, 2007, 7:23 PM
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mistajman wrote: or http://www.nols.edu/store/product.php?productid=16402&cat=285&page=1
^my go-to pack for multi-pitches.
I also like the BD Bullet.
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