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carabiner96
Jan 10, 2008, 2:17 AM
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jut struggling right now. Got my cyborgs, they didn't come with the little baggie of screws and tools. so i have to macgyver. i've already ripped my pants.
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carabiner96
Jan 10, 2008, 2:24 AM
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brent_e wrote: carabiner96 wrote: jut struggling right now. Got my cyborgs, they didn't come with the little baggie of screws and tools. so i have to macgyver. i've already ripped my pants. Mo, are you drunk? where are you climbing, anyway??? No, stone sober. The instructions on how to change to mono suck, i think i may need to order a part....any one have any experience \with the borgs? I only have the long cyllindar, not the two short ones that should come with it. I bet thats what it is. Fuck. Now i'm gonna have to order some parts, Climbing in bolton and smuggs, maybe willoughby?
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carabiner96
Jan 10, 2008, 3:00 AM
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I quit.
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builttospill
Jan 10, 2008, 4:15 AM
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really that much trouble? I just ordered a pair and I don't want to hear that. Let me know what you think of them if you ever get them working and use 'em.
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carabiner96
Jan 10, 2008, 4:19 AM
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I;m going to have to wait until i get the spare parts. Cutting the anti bot is way harder than i thought it would be too. But i love my cyborgs, wouldn't change em for the world.
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Jan 10, 2008, 4:55 AM
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Are you in your...
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carabiner96
Jan 10, 2008, 5:13 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: Are you in your... yes?
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the_climber
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carabiner96 wrote: I;m going to have to wait until i get the spare parts. Cutting the anti bot is way harder than i thought it would be too. But i love my cyborgs, wouldn't change em for the world. Should have got the Grivels.... FWIW, I've gon back to Duo-Points from Mono's. Mono's great for Mixed, Boilerplate (penetrating force.... hehehe I said penetrating), and Hero ice. Bad for Chandeliered and Lacy ice, Sunrotted ice, Neve, Snow, ankle stability, Stability in general. Duo's great for stability, OK for mixed (unless it is primarily small pockets and seams), Sunrotted ice, neve, snow, walking stability, versatility (horizontals are better for chandeliered, sunrott, Neve and snow) Both have their place. It all depends on what you're wanting to climb and what works best for you.
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mikew
Jan 11, 2008, 3:22 AM
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You have to take a saw to the anitbot and cut out a groove in the middle. There should be a slight pattern stamped on the plate. Then it is just a matter of sliding over one point and applying the spacers.
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brent_e
Jan 11, 2008, 2:37 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: brent_e wrote: carabiner96 wrote: jut struggling right now. Got my cyborgs, they didn't come with the little baggie of screws and tools. so i have to macgyver. i've already ripped my pants. Mo, are you drunk? where are you climbing, anyway??? No, stone sober. The instructions on how to change to mono suck, i think i may need to order a part....any one have any experience \with the borgs? I only have the long cyllindar, not the two short ones that should come with it. I bet thats what it is. Fuck. Now i'm gonna have to order some parts, Climbing in bolton and smuggs, maybe willoughby? that's shoddy, Mo. see if you can rig something with washers??? how do those places compare to the climbing around keene???
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Jan 11, 2008, 3:31 PM
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This weekend? I bet they are slightly better... Conditions report from Rock n River looks BAAAAAAAD! I called this weekend on account of global warming... Gonna make some homebrew instead!
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carabiner96
Jan 11, 2008, 4:06 PM
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Never been to Keene, but check your pm's cause I am going to Montreal, oui oui! Turns out I have to order parts from BD. Tried to sound very sad in the email so they would just ship 'em out, but I'm gonna have to shell out 5 dollars for the necessary spacers. Sigh. Oh, and Dill....tried the hacksaw. Works, but sucks ass and what fingers I have were fearing for their attachment. i'm going to try and track down a dremmel tool of some sort to make life a lot easier. If it's still difficult, i'm just gonna ay fuck all. Another thing, I had to sand down the paint in the inner notches, it was all globbed up and I couldn't get the point in the slot for a while. I just keep telling myself they're awesome and I love them....
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the_climber
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carabiner96 wrote: Never been to Keene, but check your pm's cause I am going to Montreal, oui oui! Turns out I have to order parts from BD. Tried to sound very sad in the email so they would just ship 'em out, but I'm gonna have to shell out 5 dollars for the necessary spacers. Sigh. Oh, and Dill....tried the hacksaw. Works, but sucks ass and what fingers I have were fearing for their attachment. i'm going to try and track down a dremmel tool of some sort to make life a lot easier. If it's still difficult, i'm just gonna ay fuck all. Another thing, I had to sand down the paint in the inner notches, it was all globbed up and I couldn't get the point in the slot for a while. I just keep telling myself they're awesome and I love them.... The Grivels are easier... user friendly.... hehe... Have you tried using the narrow edge of a 1" bastard file Mo? It should be thr right width, and although it will take a while to complete the task it would be a little more finger safe for you. FYI a 1" bastard file is that flat metal file you would use to sharpen your picks and 'poons... it's about 1" wide, errrm, I won't saw more as it'll sound very very bad.
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Jan 11, 2008, 4:50 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: jut struggling right now. Got my cyborgs, they didn't come with the little baggie of screws and tools. so i have to macgyver. i've already ripped my pants. I was expecting something totally different from this thread.
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carabiner96 wrote: Never been to Keene, but check your pm's cause I am going to Montreal, oui oui! Turns out I have to order parts from BD. Tried to sound very sad in the email so they would just ship 'em out, but I'm gonna have to shell out 5 dollars for the necessary spacers. Sigh. Oh, and Dill....tried the hacksaw. Works, but sucks ass and what fingers I have were fearing for their attachment. i'm going to try and track down a dremmel tool of some sort to make life a lot easier. If it's still difficult, i'm just gonna ay fuck all. Another thing, I had to sand down the paint in the inner notches, it was all globbed up and I couldn't get the point in the slot for a while. I just keep telling myself they're awesome and I love them.... Fuck the anti balling plates. The clips on my Sabertooths broke off so the front of the plate was just flopping so I took them off. They don't ball up any worse than they did with the plates on. The Cyborgs don't have much more to trap snow, not like vertical frame crampons.
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Jan 13, 2008, 5:41 AM
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I didn't find attaching the monos too difficult. I hammered the points into the grooves by embedding them in some soft wood first to protect everything, and then hit them on the ground (pretty hard). I certainly won't call it user-friendly, though. I'm curious how they do it in the factory. I didn't even bother with the front abs plates. Haven't noticed a problem yet, but Montana snow isn't very sticky.
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Jan 14, 2008, 3:28 AM
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carabiner96 wrote: jut struggling right now. Got my cyborgs, they didn't come with the little baggie of screws and tools. so i have to macgyver. i've already ripped my pants. Look here, 'biner... a pretty girl like yourself should have no problem just dumping them on the counter at your local climbing/mountaineering shop, flash a smile, show the rip in your pants, and ask the nice guy behind the counter to help out. With the crampon, not the pants, though I suppose he'd be more than happy to do one, then the other. You'd be doing him a favor anyway, such that he can either: show off his familiarity/skill with the hardware he sells (which always feels good, yes?), or he'll realize that the system sucks and he can steer people away from the tool if they're looking for a mono-change-up. FTR: Climbed with a new partner today who'd gone mono for a bit, she just left the anti-bot off. 'Course, she'd discovered that it wasn't the right tool for the job she was doing, so had switched back to duals. You'll probably do the same. Also, IME, where you place the mono has a bit of an affect on the bottom of your foot. Just a fraction of an inch to the wrong side and you'll be putting constant pressure on the ball of the foot to balance it out, which after a short day of doing so will hurt like a mother fucker (I used to limp back to the truck after a day of climbing monos, and for several days afterward). You'll need to play with it and field test a bit to see where it works best for you before you modify the anti-bot. You should be able to fine-tune it with the spacers, but IMO I think the bionics would probably make a better mono-point crampon for you. Pick one up at a swap or ebay, that way you'll have a pair for the mixed/bullet-proof days, and one for the majority of the rest of your climbing. Hope you haven't wasted too much time on it already. Hope the pants are beyond salvage, but that they weren't too expensive.
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carabiner96
Jan 14, 2008, 4:55 AM
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Thanks, stink. I'm new, so I'm mostly putting them on mono because A) I like the concept and B) every one else around here has them set on mono. Yup. PS - I am that hear shop employee. No "I don't actually climb but I'm too cute not to sell you this gear" guy for me - because I know more than him :)
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carabiner96
Jan 14, 2008, 5:06 AM
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....but that's right, I forgot: girls don't ice climb.
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carabiner96
Jan 14, 2008, 5:17 AM
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stymingersfink wrote: carabiner96 wrote: ....but that's right, I forgot: girls don't ice climb. bullshit! Climbed up stairway with a new partner today... aside from kicking a crampon off in the middle of P5 (which has happened to me before, but not there), she did stellar. Almost like climbing with an old familiar partner... things went smooth as butter. Except when she placed that screw behind an incessant drip on P4... I got soaked just trying to un-clip the rope! Oh trust me, I know girls can climb. Better than men (Ignes Papert, anyone?) Just venting my frustration at the inability for retailers to carry what limited selection of women's ice boots there are in their stores for me to try on my little girly feet. BITCHES! haha
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stymingersfink
Jan 14, 2008, 5:26 AM
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Ya know, the other thing I'm not too fond of when it comes to the Cyborg poons? I wish the front-points had some adjustability such that I could extend them forward a bit more like I could on my old bionics. what size you wear? 6? smaller? I don't imagine you to have a wide foot, but I'll still ask... you have a wide or narrow foot?
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stymingersfink
Jan 16, 2008, 1:40 AM
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Any luck with that there problem, eh 'biner? Nothin' a couple of shots of scotch couldn't make manageable I suppose.
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