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bigredscowboy


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This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing.
I think I have everything:
A Helmet
A taut leash
Hand up and thumbs in
Any other suggestions?




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bigredscowboy wrote:
This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing.
I think I have everything:
A Helmet
A taut leash
Hand up and thumbs in
Any other suggestions?


Yeah, join the Navy. There's a career just waiting for you on the deck of an aircraft carrier.

Jay


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Are you prepared to rap off the core of the rope if your friend falls?


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I would feel much safer rapping off the mantle


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first of all, it looks like the anchor is facing the wrong way. I dont know how that is suppose to take the force of someone swinging forwards you.

second is that you can clip the rope on the climber side and as the climber climbs higher then her or she would unclip it. this will hold back a swing if the climber fell.


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bigredscowboy wrote:
This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing.
I think I have everything:
A Helmet
A taut leash
Hand up and thumbs in
Any other suggestions?

Looks fine. That rock you slung is bomber, right?


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jt512 wrote:
bigredscowboy wrote:
This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing.
I think I have everything:
A Helmet
A taut leash
Hand up and thumbs in
Any other suggestions?

[image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/7/380177-work-Trotting.jpg[/image]

Yeah, join the Navy. There's a career just waiting for you on the deck of an aircraft carrier.

Jay
You have a bank of like 7 responses, don't you?


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I think for safety reasons you should be wearing a long sleeved top. You could scuff your elbows with that T shirt on.


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Gloves, you definitely need some gloves. Preferably the late-70's style black nylon mesh fingerless ones. Also, you should probably keep your headlamp attached to your helmet at all times, especially in the case where a tronsight attempt degenerates into a extended trangdogging session and you have to continue to spot the climber after dark. You might also consider wearing a hydration pack, as it looks like a harsh desert climate in that picture.

In this particular shot, it looks like the falling climber would come off the route in a huge wrecking ball type swing, you should probably have stacked a few crashpads between yourself and the large boulder to your right, or maybe employed a spotter to spot you.

Otherwise, that looks like solid technique. Way to climb safe!


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thumbs tucked - good, palms should be OP&OP.
am i crazy (edit, WTF) or is that half dome in the background?


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Long sleeve shirt is imperative. I could have gotten an ouchie if I'd fallen

0x2102 wrote:
Gloves, you definitely need some gloves. Preferably the late-70's style black nylon mesh fingerless ones. Also, you should probably keep your headlamp attached to your helmet at all times, especially in the case where a tronsight attempt degenerates into a extended trangdogging session and you have to continue to spot the climber after dark. You might also consider wearing a hydration pack, as it looks like a harsh desert climate in that picture.

In this particular shot, it looks like the falling climber would come off the route in a huge wrecking ball type swing, you should probably have stacked a few crashpads between yourself and the large boulder to your right, or maybe employed a spotter to spot you.

Otherwise, that looks like solid technique. Way to climb safe!
0x2102, great advise as usual. I am such a no0b at this!!!1!!!
I can haz my spottr card nowz?


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bigredscowboy wrote:
This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing.
I think I have everything:
A Helmet
A taut leash
Hand up and thumbs in
Any other suggestions?

Take a spotter's technique class. My daughter is teaching one...




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bigredscowboy wrote:
Any other suggestions?


I can't tell from the photo, but if the rope is NOT running through a first bolt just above the climber as a directional, you're going to completely miss the spot as your friend swings spine first into the boulder behind you. If there is a directional, disregard. Smile

Edit: Aaannnd, it's not clear what your ground anchor accomplishes. Are you on a ledge or something?


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you should probably haved about 3 crashpads too


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bigredscowboy wrote:
TRonsight ... TRash ... TRonsight ... TRonspotting

TRoll?

And besides, ya'll might laugh, but a buddy of mine got a concussion and broken bones from getting booted in the ass when someone took a pendulum swing on toprope. Protip: don't bend over with your ass pointed in the direction of a potential swinging fall.


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Valarc wrote:
a buddy of mine got a concussion and broken bones from getting booted in the ass

So what you're saying is your buddy had his head up his ass?


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you should always pull as much stretch out of the rope as you can before you start up

makes all the difference between catching a fall and merely guiding a landing with our real stretchy ropes


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j_ung wrote:
Edit: Aaannnd, it's not clear what your ground anchor accomplishes.

It's used to reel in the fish.

Jay


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that pic is worth a thousand words Smile


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Take a spotter's technique class. My daughter is teaching one...

[image]http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db37b3127ccea82255847a0400000015108AcuGrRy4as9[/image]

This is exactly what I've been looking for. How much does she charge?


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Valarc wrote:

TRoll?

And besides, ya'll might laugh, but a buddy of mine got a concussion and broken bones from getting booted in the ass when someone took a pendulum swing on toprope. Protip: don't bend over with your ass pointed in the direction of a potential swinging fall.

If that were a big ugly TRoll TRonsighting this climb I probably would have used two anchor systems


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bender wrote:
you should always pull as much stretch out of the rope as you can before you start up

makes all the difference between catching a fall and merely guiding a landing with our real stretchy ropes

This is probably a really good idea on a steep/overhanging route.


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bigredscowboy wrote:
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Take a spotter's technique class. My daughter is teaching one...

This is exactly what I've been looking for. How much does she charge?

I believe the going rate is about $50 an hour, plus plane tickets for the entire family to the climbing destination she chooses as acceptable for teaching the lesson. After all, I can't send a 5yo on the plane alone, can I?



P.S. This thread reminded me of an episode about 2 years ago:

My then-7yo son (completely on his own initiative) is spotting my then-3yo daughter while she climbs a 4-ft-tall boulder-- over and over and over. After doing this for good half- hour, DS says petulantly: Muummm, she doesn't fall! How would I EVER know that I'm spotting her the right way, if she doesn't fall?"


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Should the crash pads be in front of or behind me? Is there any chance that I could just use a sumo suit instead?


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9 out of 10. where did you find this picture?

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