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noground13


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Good or bad idea?

Hey so I have a 9mm dynamic rope which ive been using for about a year. It has developed a tear about 2/3 the way along the rope in the outer casing with the rest of the rope in good condition. I was considering splicing the rope to get some more use out of it but I was wondering if that was such a good idea and am looking for some input. Thanks!


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Sure, do that, no problem at all.



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This looks exactly (verbatim) like a post that someone put up a year or so ago. On the flipside, I would find it hilarious to watch even try to splice a kern-mantle rope together.


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I'm obviously being sarcastic.


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I will bite on a troll. just a few things to consider.

(1) There is no established method of splicing a kernmantle rope.

(2) the Kern relies on the continuity of the spiral in the individual yarns to provide the stretch required for dynamic properties.

(3) the mantle requires the smooth fibers for abrasion resistance.


I am with Coastal, "sure go ahead" or you can do like the rest of us and just cut off the offending partion and continue to use a shorter rope.


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check this.

http://www.neropes.com/SPL_Kernmantle_HeavyDuty.aspx


reg


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clc wrote:
check this.

http://www.neropes.com/SPL_Kernmantle_HeavyDuty.aspx

http://www.neropes.com/...antle_HeavyDuty.aspx

that's ah neat trick - but not to be used in climbing!


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reg wrote:
clc wrote:
check this.

http://www.neropes.com/SPL_Kernmantle_HeavyDuty.aspx

http://www.neropes.com/...antle_HeavyDuty.aspx

that's ah neat trick - but not to be used in climbing!
Yeah, how would i feed one of those through my grigri when i come to one in the middlez of the rope?


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noground13 wrote:
It has developed a tear about 2/3 the way...

Man, that sucks... If you cut your rope, you'll only have 1/3 of it left! It's a shame it wasn't only 1/3 of the way down the rope. That way you'd still have 2/3 of your rope left after you cut it.

I learned a trick once that can double the amount of good rope you've got left in this instance. Measure to the bad spot from the other end of your rope.

Stupid trolls are never any good at math.


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dutyje wrote:
noground13 wrote:
It has developed a tear about 2/3 the way...

Man, that sucks... If you cut your rope, you'll only have 1/3 of it left! It's a shame it wasn't only 1/3 of the way down the rope. That way you'd still have 2/3 of your rope left after you cut it.

I learned a trick once that can double the amount of good rope you've got left in this instance. Measure to the bad spot from the other end of your rope.

Stupid trolls are never any good at math.

ummmm.......he could cut it into three even parts then he'd have his 2 thirds - right? Tongue

edit: hold on ah minute, i missed this - he'd then have all three thirds!!


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dutyje wrote:
noground13 wrote:
It has developed a tear about 2/3 the way...

Man, that sucks... If you cut your rope, you'll only have 1/3 of it left! It's a shame it wasn't only 1/3 of the way down the rope. That way you'd still have 2/3 of your rope left after you cut it.

I learned a trick once that can double the amount of good rope you've got left in this instance. Measure to the bad spot from the other end of your rope.

Stupid trolls are never any good at math.

Trolls are on the cutting edge of climbing etiquette and technique, so I forgive them their loose handle on the nuts and bolts. Keep up the good work, troll kind!


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reg wrote:
dutyje wrote:
noground13 wrote:
It has developed a tear about 2/3 the way...

Man, that sucks... If you cut your rope, you'll only have 1/3 of it left! It's a shame it wasn't only 1/3 of the way down the rope. That way you'd still have 2/3 of your rope left after you cut it.

I learned a trick once that can double the amount of good rope you've got left in this instance. Measure to the bad spot from the other end of your rope.

Stupid trolls are never any good at math.

ummmm.......he could cut it into three even parts then he'd have his 2 thirds - right? Tongue

edit: hold on ah minute, i missed this - he'd then have all three thirds!!

Yea, but only two of them would be good cuz the third, um, third has that cut in it.

But he could still rappel 60m on the core strands.


noground13


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That makes a great deal of sense about it being next to impossible to splice a kernmantle rope.

One of my friends mentioned making a rug out of the torn rope, any ideas? or dutyje you mentioned something about measuring the length of rope to the tear?

it would be good to get some use out of it as a rug or otherwise ha


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adatesman wrote:
gunkiemike wrote:
But he could still rappel 60m on the core strands.

Remember the Bluejays thread? Its more like 360m.... assuming 12 core strands in the rope and no stretch. With stretch probably around 380m.

-a.
You forgot about the material used up by the knots, Care to revise your estimate down a bit... say 379M?


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