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justthemaid
Jul 16, 2008, 7:44 PM
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I recently acquired a set of these. I have no idea who makes them, and can't seem to find them anywhere on the net.
Flexible single stem similar to the Black Diamonds. The heads resemble Rock Empires. Super light weight. Same color blue slings sewn on all of them.
The only writing or mark of any kind is the word "Climb" on the handles. No stamps. No KN rating. No manufacturer mark.
So.... my theories
1.) Space-aged Uzbekistani ultra light-weight super cams???
2.) Chinese exploding pot-metal death-cams?
3.) Other
Any other theories?? Safe to use- yes/no??
The pics:
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AlexCV
Jul 16, 2008, 7:53 PM
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They look like Rock Empire Comets, sort of.
Differences:
The lobes are anodized.
The sheath on the cable isn't clear.
The sling is nylon.
The markings and shape of the trigger.
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gothcopter
Jul 16, 2008, 7:57 PM
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The design looks very similar to the Camp Air Cam, but the materials look a bit cheaper. Perhaps a knock-off?
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morlebeke
Jul 16, 2008, 7:59 PM
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I can get you a great deal on a Rolex while you're at it
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AlexCV
Jul 16, 2008, 8:05 PM
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gothcopter wrote: The design looks very similar to the Camp Air Cam, but the materials look a bit cheaper. Perhaps a knock-off?
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AlexCV
Jul 16, 2008, 8:07 PM
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Could they be from Climb Axe? They seem to have all sort of Camp-like "climb axe" brand gear.
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ryanb
Jul 16, 2008, 8:18 PM
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The heads look identical to the head on a forged stem cam branded as "acme climbing" (or maybe "climb axe"?) and taged with a goat they used to sell at pagan in moab. These probably come from eh same eastern european factory as rock empire and other poor quality cams...
I've got the purple one ... cheep shit that seems to work ok, not alot of range. i'd avoid using them unless you need multiple cams for sandstone in which case its better than nothing. Go stick them in a crack and bounce test/funkness them before you fall on em.
They'll probably hold falls in ideal placements but nicer cams (ones with more range, better placed trigger wires, quality control and designs that have been refined after years of use all over the world) will place and clean with less futzing around and leave you with less fear in the bottom of your stomach.
Edit: http://www.rockclimbing.com/gear/Detailed/3593.html
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coolcat83
Jul 16, 2008, 9:21 PM
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morlebeke wrote: I can get you a great deal on a Rolex while you're at it
for $20 i'll sell you a dolex
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justthemaid
Jul 17, 2008, 3:57 AM
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So your telling me I own a Yugo?
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caughtinside
Jul 17, 2008, 4:51 AM
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Like most off brand cams, they work but they probably suck. And by suck I mean poor range and lousy trigger action. But I'd fall on them.
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stymingersfink
Jul 17, 2008, 5:13 AM
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caughtinside wrote: Like most off brand cams, they work but they probably suck. And by suck I mean poor range and lousy trigger action. But I'd fall on them.
adatesman might be willing to test them for you, though i doubt you'd get them back in their original condition.
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majid_sabet
Jul 17, 2008, 5:56 AM
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caughtinside wrote: Like most off brand cams, they work but they probably suck. And by suck I mean poor range and lousy trigger action. But I'd fall on them.
that is not true
sell those to me and then go buy some name brand
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billcoe_
Jul 17, 2008, 3:11 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: caughtinside wrote: Like most off brand cams, they work but they probably suck. And by suck I mean poor range and lousy trigger action. But I'd fall on them. that is not true sell those to me and then go buy some name brand
Sold!
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sungam
Jul 17, 2008, 6:02 PM
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Can I also ask where you got them from?
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justthemaid
Jul 17, 2008, 8:18 PM
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I got a set of 9 of these as a gift. Not sure where they came from originally. I'll probably just stick to my Black Diamonds for lead climbing for now and relegate these to the TR rack.
It might be fun to send one in to get destroyed in a pull test- purely in the name of science.
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angry
Jul 17, 2008, 8:31 PM
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I've seen them before, I just can't remember where. Almost certainly some variation of climb-axe I think.
They'll hold 12-14kn just like any other cam if you break them. More importantly though, breaking things is fun.
I keep PMing adatesman with ideas to break stuff and he's already ahead of me. One day I'll come up with something really cool to break.
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sungam
Jul 17, 2008, 8:37 PM
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angry wrote: I've seen them before, I just can't remember where. Almost certainly some variation of climb-axe I think. They'll hold 12-14kn just like any other cam if you break them. More importantly though, breaking things is fun. I keep PMing adatesman with ideas to break stuff and he's already ahead of me. One day I'll come up with something really cool to break.
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elvislegs
Jul 17, 2008, 8:41 PM
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"RUSSIAN VIMMIN MAKE ZIS CLIMPING SPRINGS OF RECYCLED COOLD VARR STEEL!!
ZEY MAKE STRONG LIKE BULL!!! VILL HOLD MANY MANY ROPES! YOU LIKE, YOU BUY. OK, VEE THROW EEN NEW KVEEK-DROW SNAP-LINKS, SPECIAL TODAY FOR YOU."
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fresh
Jul 17, 2008, 8:53 PM
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my guess is the "climb" on the trigger is short for "for your safety, these cams will sustain any force that can be generated by a fall while on a *climb*." or maybe something more simple like "it is fun to *climb*." or maybe it's code for something..
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getout87
Jul 17, 2008, 9:21 PM
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i can't see the picture, but i'll agree with angry, hes is smart.
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majid_sabet
Jul 18, 2008, 4:56 AM
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justthemaid wrote: I got a set of 9 of these as a gift. Not sure where they came from originally. I'll probably just stick to my Black Diamonds for lead climbing for now and relegate these to the TR rack. It might be fun to send one in to get destroyed in a pull test- purely in the name of science.
9x $20 =$180
paypal or money order?
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NateV
Jul 18, 2008, 6:14 AM
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Looks like "Climb Axe"
http://www.climbaxe.com/index.asp?PageAction=COMPANY
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sungam
Jul 18, 2008, 8:36 AM
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You should definitely get one or two pull-tested.
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