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jacob80304
Aug 8, 2008, 5:36 PM
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My friend found an old 11mm rope in his storage garage that didn't show any signs of wear when we looked over it, however when I was being lowered off the warm-up route I could see lines of thread and a few suspicious looking marks on the rope. I got down alive but our day was abruptly ended on account of the unknown condition of the rope.
Does anyone have any advice on how to check a rope for micro-tears, lacerations, stressed areas and other damages?
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krosbakken
Aug 8, 2008, 5:43 PM
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If you don't feel safe climbing on it or have questions about its safety, don't climb on it and retire it.
just my two cents
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AlexCV
Aug 8, 2008, 6:05 PM
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Retire. Too many unknown. Not worth saving 120$ (or however much the cheapest 11mm is nowadays.)
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coolcat83
Aug 8, 2008, 6:37 PM
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if you have to ask then the answer should be obvious. don't use it. would you really feel safer climbing on it because some people on the internet said it's ok?
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sterlingjim
Aug 8, 2008, 6:45 PM
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jacob80304 wrote: My friend found an old 11mm rope in his storage garage that didn't show any signs of wear when we looked over it, however when I was being lowered off the warm-up route I could see lines of thread and a few suspicious looking marks on the rope. I got down alive but our day was abruptly ended on account of the unknown condition of the rope. Does anyone have any advice on how to check a rope for micro-tears, lacerations, stressed areas and other damages?
Toss it. Molecular break down of the nylon is not detectable with the naked eye. Having no knowledge of it's age or history... toss it. It being 11mm is probably a fair indication of the age. Very few 11mm ropes have been sold in the last 15 years.
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basecamp
Aug 8, 2008, 6:51 PM
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Toss it, make it a bathroom rug, use it to tow a car, use it to pull down a tree, just don't use it for climbing. If the value of your life is under $200 bucks then go ahead, but I'm sure you and your family wouldn't set that price tag that low!!
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jacob80304
Aug 8, 2008, 7:08 PM
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Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay.
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stymingersfink
Aug 8, 2008, 7:49 PM
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jacob80304 wrote: Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay.
What good is that going to do for you?
Sure, it may look fine on the outside, but what about the stuff you can't see?
If I were you, I'd listen to SterlingJim. He knows of what he speaks, as building ropes is what he does.
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curt
Aug 10, 2008, 12:55 AM
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jacob80304 wrote: Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay.
You have already been told (several times) that:
1) The rope should probably be retired.
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2) There is no way to know for sure if the rope is any good.
Are you an idiot?
Curt
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stymingersfink
Aug 10, 2008, 12:59 AM
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curt wrote: jacob80304 wrote: Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay. You have already been told (several times) that: 1) The rope should probably be retired. and 2) There is no way to know for sure if the rope is any good. Are you an idiot? Curt
yes.
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jacob80304
Aug 10, 2008, 2:33 AM
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You all will be happy to know that I've taken your posts to heart and the rope in question is now on my front step in neat little knots. Thanks for clarifying my suspisions.
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majid_sabet
Aug 10, 2008, 5:06 AM
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sterlingjim wrote: jacob80304 wrote: My friend found an old 11mm rope in his storage garage that didn't show any signs of wear when we looked over it, however when I was being lowered off the warm-up route I could see lines of thread and a few suspicious looking marks on the rope. I got down alive but our day was abruptly ended on account of the unknown condition of the rope. Does anyone have any advice on how to check a rope for micro-tears, lacerations, stressed areas and other damages? Toss it. Molecular break down of the nylon is not detectable with the naked eye. Having no knowledge of it's age or history... toss it. It being 11mm is probably a fair indication of the age. Very few 11mm ropes have been sold in the last 15 years.
JIM
A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good for how long?
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lobstertronic
Aug 10, 2008, 3:27 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long?
typically 60 metres long Majid.
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stymingersfink
Aug 10, 2008, 3:33 PM
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lobstertronic wrote: majid_sabet wrote: A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long? typically 60 metres long Majid.
you know that guy died, don't you?
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brownie710
Aug 10, 2008, 3:45 PM
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basecamp wrote: use it to tow a car, use it to pull down a tree, quote] keep in mind it could have already been used to do either or both of the above
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krosbakken
Aug 10, 2008, 4:48 PM
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stymingersfink wrote: lobstertronic wrote: majid_sabet wrote: A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long? typically 60 metres long Majid. who the fuck are you talking to? you know that guy died, don't you?
What majid, what really!? He died?
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alpenweg
Aug 10, 2008, 5:28 PM
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value of a human life
verses
saving a few bucks
no it is nit a good idea to climb on a used old rope!
alpenweg
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kriso9tails
Aug 10, 2008, 10:33 PM
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alpenweg wrote: value of a human life versus saving a few bucks
Depends on who's life it is, I suppose.
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lobstertronic
Aug 11, 2008, 1:24 AM
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stymingersfink wrote: who the fuck are you talking to? you know that guy died, don't you?
From the sounds of it, an undead, bad juju, voodoo-reanimated, brain-devouring, flesh-eating, forum-trolling zombie...
Is there a problem here officer?
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majid_sabet
Aug 11, 2008, 5:17 AM
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krosbakken wrote: stymingersfink wrote: lobstertronic wrote: majid_sabet wrote: A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long? typically 60 metres long Majid. who the fuck are you talking to? you know that guy died, don't you? What majid, what really!? He died?
That stupid retard kiddoo Angry told everyone in RC that I died and his cousin Stymingfu*k is repeating the same thing over again.
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krosbakken
Aug 11, 2008, 4:00 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: krosbakken wrote: stymingersfink wrote: lobstertronic wrote: majid_sabet wrote: A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long? typically 60 metres long Majid. who the fuck are you talking to? you know that guy died, don't you? What majid, what really!? He died? That stupid retard kiddoo Angry told everyone in RC that I died and his cousin Stymingfu*k is repeating the same thing over again.
dude i didn't even believe him but it sure funny. and i had to along with it.
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