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jacob80304


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My friend found an old 11mm rope in his storage garage that didn't show any signs of wear when we looked over it, however when I was being lowered off the warm-up route I could see lines of thread and a few suspicious looking marks on the rope. I got down alive but our day was abruptly ended on account of the unknown condition of the rope.

Does anyone have any advice on how to check a rope for micro-tears, lacerations, stressed areas and other damages?


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If you don't feel safe climbing on it or have questions about its safety, don't climb on it and retire it.

just my two cents


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Retire. Too many unknown. Not worth saving 120$ (or however much the cheapest 11mm is nowadays.)


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if you have to ask then the answer should be obvious. don't use it. would you really feel safer climbing on it because some people on the internet said it's ok?


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jacob80304 wrote:
My friend found an old 11mm rope in his storage garage that didn't show any signs of wear when we looked over it, however when I was being lowered off the warm-up route I could see lines of thread and a few suspicious looking marks on the rope. I got down alive but our day was abruptly ended on account of the unknown condition of the rope.

Does anyone have any advice on how to check a rope for micro-tears, lacerations, stressed areas and other damages?

Toss it. Molecular break down of the nylon is not detectable with the naked eye. Having no knowledge of it's age or history... toss it. It being 11mm is probably a fair indication of the age. Very few 11mm ropes have been sold in the last 15 years.


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Toss it, make it a bathroom rug, use it to tow a car, use it to pull down a tree, just don't use it for climbing. If the value of your life is under $200 bucks then go ahead, but I'm sure you and your family wouldn't set that price tag that low!!


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check out the BD tests on a beat up 9.4:

http://www.bdel.com/...p_archive.php#011907

bottom line is that you won't know how strong it is until you break it. here's a link for some good deals on ropes:

http://spadout.com/c/ropes-single/


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Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay.


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jacob80304 wrote:
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay.
the only way to 100% check if it's ok is to break it under controlled conditions.

What good is that going to do for you?



Sure, it may look fine on the outside, but what about the stuff you can't see?

If I were you, I'd listen to SterlingJim. He knows of what he speaks, as building ropes is what he does.


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jacob80304 wrote:
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay.

You have already been told (several times) that:

1) The rope should probably be retired.

and

2) There is no way to know for sure if the rope is any good.

Are you an idiot?

Curt


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curt wrote:
jacob80304 wrote:
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was asking for ways to check if its okay, not if it was okay.

You have already been told (several times) that:

1) The rope should probably be retired.

and

2) There is no way to know for sure if the rope is any good.

Are you an idiot?

Curt
let me answer for him, curt.


yes.


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You all will be happy to know that I've taken your posts to heart and the rope in question is now on my front step in neat little knots. Thanks for clarifying my suspisions.


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sterlingjim wrote:
jacob80304 wrote:
My friend found an old 11mm rope in his storage garage that didn't show any signs of wear when we looked over it, however when I was being lowered off the warm-up route I could see lines of thread and a few suspicious looking marks on the rope. I got down alive but our day was abruptly ended on account of the unknown condition of the rope.

Does anyone have any advice on how to check a rope for micro-tears, lacerations, stressed areas and other damages?

Toss it. Molecular break down of the nylon is not detectable with the naked eye. Having no knowledge of it's age or history... toss it. It being 11mm is probably a fair indication of the age. Very few 11mm ropes have been sold in the last 15 years.

JIM

A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good for how long?


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majid_sabet wrote:

A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long?

typically 60 metres long Majid.


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lobstertronic wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:

A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long?

typically 60 metres long Majid.
who the fuck are you talking to?

you know that guy died, don't you?


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basecamp wrote:
use it to tow a car, use it to pull down a tree, quote]



keep in mind it could have already been used to do either or both of the above


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stymingersfink wrote:
lobstertronic wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:

A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long?

typically 60 metres long Majid.
who the fuck are you talking to?

you know that guy died, don't you?


What majid, what really!? He died?
Crazy


alpenweg


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value of a human life
verses
saving a few bucks

no it is nit a good idea to climb on a used old rope!

alpenweg


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alpenweg wrote:
value of a human life
versus
saving a few bucks

Depends on who's life it is, I suppose.


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stymingersfink wrote:
who the fuck are you talking to?

you know that guy died, don't you?

From the sounds of it, an undead, bad juju, voodoo-reanimated, brain-devouring, flesh-eating, forum-trolling zombie...

Is there a problem here officer?


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krosbakken wrote:
stymingersfink wrote:
lobstertronic wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:

A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long?

typically 60 metres long Majid.
who the fuck are you talking to?

you know that guy died, don't you?


What majid, what really!? He died?
Crazy

That stupid retard kiddoo Angry told everyone in RC that I died and his cousin Stymingfu*k is repeating the same thing over again.


krosbakken


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majid_sabet wrote:
krosbakken wrote:
stymingersfink wrote:
lobstertronic wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:

A new stock rope in the cool warehouse is good how long?

typically 60 metres long Majid.
who the fuck are you talking to?

you know that guy died, don't you?


What majid, what really!? He died?
Crazy

That stupid retard kiddoo Angry told everyone in RC that I died and his cousin Stymingfu*k is repeating the same thing over again.


dude i didn't even believe him but it sure funny. and i had to along with it.


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