I've been making top rope anchors with a long (80 ft I think) static rope by tying a bowline around a tree at each end of the rope, then equalizing them to my master point, which is an eight knot on a bight.

Is this safe? It doesn't seem as redundant as using doubled up webbing... but much simpler and easier to put the master point where I want it. Is what I'm doing effective?

Thanks.

when setting up a tr with static i generally use a tension hitch (wrap the rope around the tree many times, tie an 8 in the end clip it with a locker back to the strand) for the power point i tie two 8's on a bight next to eachother for redundant power point.

I've been making top rope anchors with a long (80 ft I think) static rope by tying a bowline around a tree at each end of the rope, then equalizing them to my master point, which is an eight knot on a bight.

Is this safe? It doesn't seem as redundant as using doubled up webbing... but much simpler and easier to put the master point where I want it. Is what I'm doing effective?

Thanks.

It's 9mm line. Rock and Snow said that was enough... otherwise too heavy to hump around.

Do others agree with coolcat - a tension hitch with an eight tied back to the line with a beaner is a better option?

Good idea for the 2 anchors too coolcat... so then I put a biner through each? It seems like this would make it hard to equalize them...

No tree... maybe find a good boulder and throw some doubled webbing around it, knot it, biner it, and then tie it to the static rope with an eight knot? Would that be good?

What if there is no tree ?

Curt
abrupt, possibly rude and not vey helpful.

one side fig 8 to gear, then other leg clove to adjust and a backup 8 right after that clipped in, equalize the gear on each leg independently of course before you hook up the static line. equalizing the line is not rocket science. tie the PP where you want it from the fixed leg with doubled up 8's (if you don't know what i'm talking about god help you and i'll post a picture...i'll post one anyway) let your climbing rope weight the PP (assuming you are not using it to rap and set up the climb, then use something else to weight the PP if you can, otherwise guestimate..it's a TR...) once weighted just make a clove get things equal and you are good to go.

Problems?



edited for speeling

You forgot a stopper knot on the cam.

Well then your anchor is no longer as good as the trees are, but only as good as the "good boulder" is. Come to think of it, perhaps climbing just isn't for you? Have you considered crochet, shuffleboard or backgammon as more suitable pastimes?

Curt

I never use a camming device as part of an anchor point, they have a tendancy to walk and if they are not observed you can have a catastrophic failure Two I only use Screwgate Biners, if I have to use clipgates they are opposite and opposed Three I always have the Basket of the biner facing down hill a biner cant screw uphill and Lastly I always have my culminating point forward of the edge sufficiently enough so I can observe the biners when climbing.

great in an ideal world, but that's why you plan redundancy, sometimes a cam is what you want to back up a anchor, i've made TR anchors that had 2 cams, a tricam and 2 nuts, all equalized, all bomber if that thing fails then it was my time.