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HappinessIsWinning
Nov 6, 2008, 10:10 PM
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You can take any number of things I have said and make them sound terrible. Most things I said are.
All I would like to say,.... once again is;
I would never bolt a crack.
I would love to learn more about climbing trad. (Reading 2 books about it atm)
I have no desire to bolt the hell out of any piece of rock.
I was drunk last night when I made this post. (otherwise I might have refrained from making it)
I was pissed off about Ken Nichols and in turn "piton", who is an avid supporter of Ken Nichols.
I acted rashly.
I am not the Hitler you think I am.
I am not a Nazi.
I like puppies.
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applewood
Nov 6, 2008, 10:46 PM
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Thanks for the clarification - lessoned learned? Don't climb drunk or post to this site drunk.... (and Ken Nichols does have a way of pissing people off - I sure wouldn't want someone chopping bolts on a route I put up or was leading).
Climbing is amazing - it was fun when I was 15 and still fun at 50!I don't want it to be all safe and sound - I want it to remain an adventure at any level, any grade.
Bolts are great but there are way too many of them....hum, perhaps like climbers...
Final 2 cents- The only pure climbing is that done without technological aid, and aid includes rope, shoes, chalk, rack, beta etc...so I do my best climbing in my dreams...
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angry
Nov 6, 2008, 11:04 PM
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wmfork wrote: majid_sabet wrote: IQ wise, trad climbers have higher IQ than most sport climbers. Right... having that sentence coming out of your mouth really gets the point across.
Majid types with his mouth?
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chossmonkey
Nov 6, 2008, 11:11 PM
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cracklover wrote: zeke_sf wrote: You've changed, Gabe. Used to be you would have been trolled into a maelstrom of entertaining anger. You must be happier in Coloradiego? Nah. Not really serious at all on my part, and, yes, joking. Nah, I haven't changed - as usual, your joke went right over my head. I assume you're referring to something in the community forum that I missed. But yeah, I ran into CI at the Creek. Here's a pic I took of him that just screams "Meatbomb"! Have fun with it!!!!  GO
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zeke_sf
Nov 6, 2008, 11:20 PM
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stitches. of course, I missed the one (or 2?) over the roof, but it would have been too busy that way.
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majid_sabet
Nov 6, 2008, 11:38 PM
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angry wrote: wmfork wrote: majid_sabet wrote: IQ wise, trad climbers have higher IQ than most sport climbers. Right... having that sentence coming out of your mouth really gets the point across. Majid types with his mouth?
I almost took a finger off my hand last week and ended in ER so it is true, I do type with my mouth.
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patto
Nov 6, 2008, 11:39 PM
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Parkerkat wrote: how many 5.15s have you seen FA'd in trad style? !
There lies your issue. If you believe outdoor sports are all about how hard you do things then you are missing the point and the majority of the enjoyment. Sport climbers are so grade focussed it is ridiculous. Who cares what grade you climb just get out there and have fun.
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Arrogant_Bastard
Nov 6, 2008, 11:44 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: angry wrote: wmfork wrote: majid_sabet wrote: IQ wise, trad climbers have higher IQ than most sport climbers. Right... having that sentence coming out of your mouth really gets the point across. Majid types with his mouth? I almost took a finger off my hand last week and ended in ER so it is true, I do type with my mouth.
I got a keyboard for you, right here.
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zeke_sf
Nov 6, 2008, 11:59 PM
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angry wrote: zeke_sf wrote: stitches. of course, I missed the one (or 2?) over the roof, but it would have been too busy that way. Too busy? You do realize it's a route with a fucking anchor beneath the roof, even though the roof is part of the first pitch? I say make it busier!!!
I did not know that. YOU make it busier, smartypants!
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bradley3297
Nov 7, 2008, 12:14 AM
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Climbing isnt supposed to be safe all the time. ALOT of people like trad climbing for the danger and thrill. I personally dont want it to be that safe cause then IT WOULDNT BE FUN.
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sungam
Nov 7, 2008, 2:05 AM
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I would say it's the combination of the "fear factor", the physical pleasure, and the need for complete mental awareness of your surroundings that makes climbing so great.
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Toast_in_the_Machine
Nov 7, 2008, 2:11 AM
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patto wrote: Parkerkat wrote: how many 5.15s have you seen FA'd in trad style? ! There lies your issue. If you believe outdoor sports are all about how hard you do things then you are missing the point and the majority of the enjoyment. Sport climbers are so grade focussed it is ridiculous. Who cares what grade you climb just get out there and have fun.
Do you realize man, that this is a slippery slope? Happiness? Soon the ghost of Aceto will be back telling us to open our pores to let the rock meld with us.
The only logical answer for someone who is proud of how hard people climb is “well that’s nice, can you …”
And since he can't, you make it seem really hard and he will shut up and go away.
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rasoy
Nov 7, 2008, 3:49 AM
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Hahahahahah LOL
Good troll HappinessIsWinning]
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robbovius
Nov 7, 2008, 3:55 AM
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sungam wrote: jaablink wrote: A little late but : Welcome to the USA… when will you be coming up to the northeast…. For some Gunks, Wallface, Spiderwall action. Or are you waiting for Ice season. Let me know and I will get some ice gear ready in your size…. Oh, and don’t get use to the grades in the red . It looked like you are headed for Looking Glass next, use that grading system better… I gots my ice gears with me  Everything was packed around them. When does ice come into season up there? before new years?
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notapplicable
Nov 7, 2008, 4:06 AM
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rasoy wrote: Hahahahahah LOL Good troll HappinessIsWinning]
Indeed.
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notapplicable
Nov 7, 2008, 4:09 AM
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knieveltech wrote: sungam wrote: knieveltech wrote: No extra Contra mans for you. WIN. Contra is the shizzle of my nizzle. Knieveltech is right. 3 extra lives for his code. ab ab select start gives infinite lives. This is for gheys. Contra is win every time in the multi player spectrum. Hands down. Zelda wins 1 player. Snap!! That's what I'm talking about right there and this dude isn't even 20. The rest of you have no excuse. Oh shit, I just noticed I busted 1k PC. Yays!
You guys are such nerdz.
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HappinessIsWinning
Nov 7, 2008, 1:54 PM
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notapplicable wrote: rasoy wrote: Hahahahahah LOL Good troll HappinessIsWinning] Indeed.
Glad I could help keep RC.com entertaining 
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Parkerkat
Nov 7, 2008, 2:41 PM
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Ahh..see here you is where trad philosophy and sport are different.. you simply don't understand, and therefore assume the worst...
No, its not about the actual Grad.. I don't climb 5.15, nor is there any chance I ever will.. what I do love is the pure difficulty and beauty of the movement.. during the Actual Act of climbing... Not trad protection placement.... what I climb for is to see and do as much hard, acrobatic, incredibly thin holded moves ever..thats where my love lies.. its not that I care its a 5.15..its that I care that a 5.15 pushes the boundries.... shows moves never done before...and frankly trad does not satisfy that for me.
Geez..the fact that a number is mention makes you guys automatically think its the number we're after.. NO At all.. we're after the moves that number relates to.
Geez... doesn't any actually care about climbing? Not being a saftey gear specialist?
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HappinessIsWinning
Nov 7, 2008, 2:59 PM
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Parkerkat wrote: Ahh..see here you is where trad philosophy and sport are different.. you simply don't understand, and therefore assume the worst... No, its not about the actual Grad.. I don't climb 5.15, nor is there any chance I ever will.. what I do love is the pure difficulty and beauty of the movement.. during the Actual Act of climbing... Not trad protection placement.... what I climb for is to see and do as much hard, acrobatic, incredibly thin holded moves ever..thats where my love lies.. its not that I care its a 5.15..its that I care that a 5.15 pushes the boundries.... shows moves never done before...and frankly trad does not satisfy that for me. Geez..the fact that a number is mention makes you guys automatically think its the number we're after.. NO At all.. we're after the moves that number relates to. Geez... doesn't any actually care about climbing? Not being a saftey gear specialist?
I agree with most of what he is saying. I would like to learn trad, however I enjoy the fact that with sport you can focus more energy on climbing and not have to focus so much on placing protection. Would still be nice to learn trad, I love the idea of finding a line and jumping on it. Here are a few pics of the location I have been checking out. There are a few lines here with anchors, but there a not too many that do. The cliffs in this area are 50-70 ft.
This route has anchors at the top, I believe this is a Jack Hunt route.
This is a different kind of rock, more similar to Penitente Rock.
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angry
Nov 7, 2008, 4:28 PM
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Parkerkat wrote: Ahh..see here you is where trad philosophy and sport are different.. you simply don't understand, and therefore assume the worst... No, its not about the actual Grad.. I don't climb 5.15, nor is there any chance I ever will.. what I do love is the pure difficulty and beauty of the movement.. during the Actual Act of climbing... Not trad protection placement.... what I climb for is to see and do as much hard, acrobatic, incredibly thin holded moves ever..thats where my love lies.. its not that I care its a 5.15..its that I care that a 5.15 pushes the boundries.... shows moves never done before...and frankly trad does not satisfy that for me. Geez..the fact that a number is mention makes you guys automatically think its the number we're after.. NO At all.. we're after the moves that number relates to. Geez... doesn't any actually care about climbing? Not being a saftey gear specialist?
I promise you that the trad routes I do have moves you've never imagined and are very safe.
You don't need bolts to make a safe route. You don't need bolts to have interesting movement.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about n00b.
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Parkerkat
Nov 7, 2008, 4:37 PM
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Fuck this bullshit!.. rest assured you'll never have to wait for me taking up time on your precious trad routes...if only from the company trad seems to attact...
Funny, how someone with a divergent view is quickly labelled a "noob"... a fairly standard tactic..immediately label someone as inferior and less experienced, therefore making any point they say instantly refutable. You don't me nor what i can and do climb..so Call me a noob if you will but I know what I can do..
Go have fun Meatbombs!....and glad to know Idon't have to share our poser sport crags with ya!
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granite_grrl
Nov 7, 2008, 4:51 PM
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Parkerkat wrote: Go have fun Meatbombs!....and glad to know Idon't have to share our poser sport crags with ya!
Don't worry, I doubt he'd be too interested in most of the shit we climb on in S.Ontario. Your crags are safe.
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