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No, aid climbing is more like being fed puree steak in a nursing home. The nice thing about it that you're so old and feeble that it still seems epic.

It's pretty simple, To each there own.
Not every one has trad gear also. To a lot of the kids out there today clipping bolts IS rock climbing.
The real truth is getting clippy is only one small part of being a well rounded climber. As long as I like the look of the line I couldn't care less how hard it is. As long as it's within what I can climb I climb it.
I also love to solo long easy climbs.

Uh, so don't go to the spurt crag? Didn't you just start climbing two years ago? Give it a couple more decades before you start to wax eloquent about the good ol days.

The was I look at it, the climbing experience is like eating a steak. Sport climbing is like going to Outback Steakhouse - it's pretty decent, you don't have to do much to get it, and occasionally you'll have to wait your turn behind a bunch of other people. Often, they'll even be obnoxious people.

Trad-daddy climbing is like grilling your own. You pick out the steak you like the looks of, you invest more work and time into prepping it, try to cook it to your liking, and eat with certain satisfaction.

Boudering is like McDonands - quick, easy, and leaving you feeling a little hollow inside.

Aid climbing would be something more brutal, maybe slaughtering a cow and immediately eating it right off the bone.

Do you really want more people crowding up your grill?

To a lot of the kids out there today clipping bolts IS rock climbing...

Fuckin' n00bs...

Curt

Ridge lines draw the eyes and the heart. must... climbz....

Yes, Son, You finally see what I am seeing.

Now you virtue will be exemply on rock where u can find divinity threw physical extersion joined with prana oversoul.

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wtf happened to appreciation for an obviously aesthetic line, regardless of difficulty? WTF is up with recent "generations" of climbers gravitating to contrived/non-obvious lines because they're given a stiff grade? Case in point: sport crags. I've been to several crags where folks spray endlessly about what appears to me to be unobvious (dare I say contrived bordering on eliminate) face climbs when the GLARING FUCKING OBVIOUS dihedral six feet to the left is utterly ignored because it goes at 5.single_digit?

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I think a lot of people like difficult climbs for the aesthetic quality of the climbing itself. complete control of the body. precision. mastery. personally I haven't the patience for it most of the time, but lots of people do.

exactly! don't be mad at climbers pushing their limits.

Also, I've been on some really aesthetically pleasing routes that climb like shit and some really ugly routes that climb freakin awesome.

I'll take the ugly route that climbs awesome any day of the week.

Why are you laybacking that nice looking crack? You must be a sport climber or something.

I'm confused. What do you mean?

I don' get it either.

Why are you laybacking that nice looking crack? You must be a sport climber or something.

that looks like the split pillar on the chief at squamish, one of the most famous pitches in the world. every photo or video i've ever seen shows people climbing it in this way--layback/jams. that's because it is a dihedral. that's how trad climbers get up dihedrals.

i guess you don't recognize this pitch because you're a sport climber. or something.

Perfect hands should be jammed rather then lieback

This isn't football, moves aren't planned on a chalkboard.