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hosh
Jan 2, 2009, 8:34 PM
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Has anyone gotten their hands on these yet? They sure look nice... I'm talking specifically about the purple and the green. hosh.
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Lazlo
Jan 2, 2009, 8:40 PM
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They sure look nice. I wouldn't mind having a set.
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Factor2
Jan 2, 2009, 9:19 PM
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I've played around with some at EMS. They certainly feel nice. I think the purple is the smallest one? Whichever it is, it goes scary small
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climbinginchico
Jan 2, 2009, 9:25 PM
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What do you care, it's not like you'll ever be able to use them on the frozen tundra up there. Ha! I'll call you and tell you how I like mine when I get them. I'm sure they will come in handy at the Towers.
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USnavy
Jan 3, 2009, 7:06 AM
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I own all four sizes. I don’t like the purple one (smallest). The issue with the purple one is that the amount of distance between the lobes and trigger is not large enough when the cam is in its smallest position. With the larger cams (yellow and red sizes) the crack is large enough for the trigger to go into the crack allowing you to place the cam far back into the crack pointing straight down. With the purple one you are not able to fit the large ass trigger into the crack so you have to compromise with cam depth and the angle in which the cam points in vertical cracks. On overhangs or horizontal cracks this problem does not really exist. But in vertical cracks its a PITA to get the cam far enough back into the rock and still keep the cam pointed down without the trigger levering itself against the rock opening the lobes.
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USnavy
Jan 3, 2009, 7:10 AM
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No. The purple one is about 15% smaller then the green one. They still overlap a lot though.
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caliclimbergrl
Jan 3, 2009, 7:22 AM
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Am I the only one that doesn't like these cams? I had the biggest one (#2 size) for a while, but after a bit of experience with it, I sold it, bought a BD #3 to replace it on my rack and never looked back.
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climbinginchico
Jan 3, 2009, 7:48 AM
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The BD 2 is closest in size to the link 2. The BD 3 is the next size up.
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caliclimbergrl
Jan 3, 2009, 7:49 AM
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Opps -- that was a typo. I meant I bought a new #2!
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Maddhatter
Jan 3, 2009, 7:16 PM
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USnavy wrote: I own all four sizes. I don’t like the purple one (smallest). The issue with the purple one is that the amount of distance between the lobes and trigger is not large enough when the cam is in its smallest position. With the larger cams (yellow and red sizes) the crack is large enough for the trigger to go into the crack allowing you to place the cam far back into the crack pointing straight down. With the purple one you are not able to fit the large ass trigger into the crack so you have to compromise with cam depth and the angle in which the cam points in vertical cracks. On overhangs or horizontal cracks this problem does not really exist. But in vertical cracks its a PITA to get the cam far enough back into the rock and still keep the cam pointed down without the trigger levering itself against the rock opening the lobes. Yep, That would suck. How is it for pin scars?
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USnavy
Jan 4, 2009, 7:07 AM
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Maddhatter wrote: USnavy wrote: I own all four sizes. I don’t like the purple one (smallest). The issue with the purple one is that the amount of distance between the lobes and trigger is not large enough when the cam is in its smallest position. With the larger cams (yellow and red sizes) the crack is large enough for the trigger to go into the crack allowing you to place the cam far back into the crack pointing straight down. With the purple one you are not able to fit the large ass trigger into the crack so you have to compromise with cam depth and the angle in which the cam points in vertical cracks. On overhangs or horizontal cracks this problem does not really exist. But in vertical cracks its a PITA to get the cam far enough back into the rock and still keep the cam pointed down without the trigger levering itself against the rock opening the lobes. Yep, That would suck. How is it for pin scars? Not sure, I have never placed one in a pin scar. I am thinking its too large for one though.
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Lazlo
Jan 4, 2009, 9:51 AM
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USnavy wrote: Maddhatter wrote: USnavy wrote: I own all four sizes. I don’t like the purple one (smallest). The issue with the purple one is that the amount of distance between the lobes and trigger is not large enough when the cam is in its smallest position. With the larger cams (yellow and red sizes) the crack is large enough for the trigger to go into the crack allowing you to place the cam far back into the crack pointing straight down. With the purple one you are not able to fit the large ass trigger into the crack so you have to compromise with cam depth and the angle in which the cam points in vertical cracks. On overhangs or horizontal cracks this problem does not really exist. But in vertical cracks its a PITA to get the cam far enough back into the rock and still keep the cam pointed down without the trigger levering itself against the rock opening the lobes. Yep, That would suck. How is it for pin scars? Not sure, I have never placed one in a pin scar. I am thinking its too large for one though. I imagine that Link Cams are at the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to pin scars...just a guess.
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climbinginchico
Jan 5, 2009, 2:27 AM
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That's right, spoken like a fellow gear whore. I think the .75 link is next on my list. I need a fourth cam in that size, after all. Then maybe the .5 to round out the link set.
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tradrenn
Jan 5, 2009, 4:49 AM
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caliclimbergrl wrote: Am I the only one that doesn't like these cams? I'm with you on that one, I rather take 3 placements than 1, but they might be awesome for IC, I dunno, I haven't been there yet. What do you people think of using Link Cams at IC ? Is anybody using them at IC ?
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spikeddem
Jan 5, 2009, 10:40 AM
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climbinginchico wrote: That's right, spoken like a fellow gear whore. I think the .75 link is next on my list. I need a fourth cam in that size, after all. Then maybe the .5 to round out the link set. Have you forgotten doubles??
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USnavy
Jan 5, 2009, 11:07 AM
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Lazlo wrote: USnavy wrote: Maddhatter wrote: USnavy wrote: I own all four sizes. I don’t like the purple one (smallest). The issue with the purple one is that the amount of distance between the lobes and trigger is not large enough when the cam is in its smallest position. With the larger cams (yellow and red sizes) the crack is large enough for the trigger to go into the crack allowing you to place the cam far back into the crack pointing straight down. With the purple one you are not able to fit the large ass trigger into the crack so you have to compromise with cam depth and the angle in which the cam points in vertical cracks. On overhangs or horizontal cracks this problem does not really exist. But in vertical cracks its a PITA to get the cam far enough back into the rock and still keep the cam pointed down without the trigger levering itself against the rock opening the lobes. Yep, That would suck. How is it for pin scars? Not sure, I have never placed one in a pin scar. I am thinking its too large for one though. I imagine that Link Cams are at the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to pin scars...just a guess. Ya maybe. The only scar I have seen was very small and would not accept a Max Link cam. But I know most are larger and larger scars would probably take a purple or green one. They have the ability to sit well in flaring cracks due to their high expansion range. But I don’t really know how well they hold a fall in a flaring crack for I generally don’t place them in flaring cracks.
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climbinginchico
Jan 5, 2009, 4:48 PM
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No. I already have at least triples of every other size in other cams. But I will probably end up with a double set of links. .75 is the only size I have only 3 of (orange alien, .75 c4 camalot and a .75 max cam) so I need the fourth in that size. It's imperative that I have four of every size.
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caliclimbergrl
Jan 5, 2009, 5:10 PM
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I haven't used them at IC (because I still haven't managed to make it out there -- tragic huh?), but I don't like them in splitters in general, so I don't imagine I'd change my mind with IC splitters. Actually, the only thing I think they would be good for would be gear anchors when you don't know what size piece to save for the anchors. But since that was the only thing I found them useful for, I got rid of mine.
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brutusofwyde
Jan 19, 2009, 12:11 AM
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I have doubles of the purple and green. Used them on several road trips so far. They have pretty much replaced the 0.5 and 0.75 camalots on my rack. Bigger range and lighter. Not as strong as the larger of the camalots whose range they fit, but just as strong as the smaller end camalots (0.5 link cam fits cracks down to -- what -- 0.3 camalot?) Not good for pin scars. Hybrid Aliens and HB offsets still rule the roost there. Brutus
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spikeddem
Jan 19, 2009, 1:10 AM
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brutusofwyde wrote: I have doubles of the purple and green. Used them on several road trips so far. They have pretty much replaced the 0.5 and 0.75 camalots on my rack. Bigger range and lighter. Not as strong as the larger of the camalots whose range they fit, but just as strong as the smaller end camalots (0.5 link cam fits cracks down to -- what -- 0.3 camalot?) Not good for pin scars. Hybrid Aliens and HB offsets still rule the roost there. Brutus The link cams are LIGHTER than the camalots?
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brutusofwyde
Jan 19, 2009, 1:48 AM
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BD 0.5 C4 97g OP 0.5 Linkcam 95g BD 0.75 C4 116g OP 0.75 Linkcam 113g Source: OP and BD websites
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climbinginchico
Jan 19, 2009, 4:07 AM
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Brutus, do you have any issues with the trigger on the .5 link catching in cracks? I've read it can be an issue. Is it annoying or anything?
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