if you are serious about getting stronger Nothing is better than Olympic lifts.

newguy5000,

If you log onto my website and pay a modest fee I will teach all the skills required for being a good troll.

im no rep for p90x. to be honest i didnt even pay for the prgram i downloaded it for free as a torrent. (i noe i noe terrible isnt it)

i just think its good and does indeed improve climbn. no one here has dispproved my evidence so far - because they cant.

As to crossfit being free not really. Have you seen how much the crossfit places charge to work out? and their insane certification fees? dis is harly frees. )and shitloads more than p90x)

Also the best exercises in xfit program are the oly lifts and if u never done em before u would be a knob not to pay for proper coaching for form styles. even a squat or a deadlift will fuck u up if u do em really wrong over time.

p90x is at least up front that they will jack u. You might say well hey there newguy5000 i can log onto the xfit site for frees man and it tells me the workout. This is true, but did u need to log onto a website to be told dat doing some pushups pull ups and sprinting is good for u?

now yes p90x has lots of that stuff too but id argue its more formulated as a system that the random shit xfit spews out.

id argualise that xfit is also geard towards shorta bursts of of work whereas the p90x program is longer and constant. Thuslies they train different things to some extant. longer and constant = better carry ova to climbn on a wall. The bursty stuff aint that useful to bursty climbn cause its too different style. (i.e bursty xfit wont help u burst on bouldering angles but long and constant will help u on a tough style root.)

so yeah. p90x WILL make u a better climber.

After just one week and fifteens sessions of having both the into a$$ f**king and the intermediate a$$ f**king I can say this program really works. My LDL level is down 10% and I was able to flash my first 5.11b. Some of the moves were a bit painful, but the results speak for themselves.

Then name one sieries of workouts that make you stronger than an Olympic lifters are. They are by definition the strongest people in the world.

im no rep for p90x. to be honest i didnt even pay for the prgram i downloaded it for free as a torrent. (i noe i noe terrible isnt it)

i just think its good and does indeed improve climbn. no one here has dispproved my evidence so far - because they cant.

As to crossfit being free not really. Have you seen how much the crossfit places charge to work out? and their insane certification fees? dis is harly frees. )and shitloads more than p90x)

Also the best exercises in xfit program are the oly lifts and if u never done em before u would be a knob not to pay for proper coaching for form styles. even a squat or a deadlift will fuck u up if u do em really wrong over time.

p90x is at least up front that they will jack u. You might say well hey there newguy5000 i can log onto the xfit site for frees man and it tells me the workout. This is true, but did u need to log onto a website to be told dat doing some pushups pull ups and sprinting is good for u?

now yes p90x has lots of that stuff too but id argue its more formulated as a system that the random shit xfit spews out.

id argualise that xfit is also geard towards shorta bursts of of work whereas the p90x program is longer and constant. Thuslies they train different things to some extant. longer and constant = better carry ova to climbn on a wall. The bursty stuff aint that useful to bursty climbn cause its too different style. (i.e bursty xfit wont help u burst on bouldering angles but long and constant will help u on a tough style root.)

so yeah. p90x WILL make u a better climber.

Lots of ways to get stronger than O lifting. Only when you use a very narrow definition can you call them the "strongest." It's remarkably bad advice to even suggest those lifts have any advantage for climbers. But CF is all about bad science and hype. Believe it or not, P90X has more going for it.

if you are serious about getting stronger Nothing is better than Olympic lifts.

I'm gonna say that those guys who compete in the worlds strongest man competitions are way stronger than any Olympic weight lifter. Those dudes drag fully loaded dump trucks! That's how I'm gonna start training for climbing! I'm gonna drag my pickup loaded with gravel wherever I go! I should be cranking 5.14 in no time.

Olympic lifts are really the only thing that makes you strong. Everything else is for Sylvester Stalone Climbers.

So if you want to get strong then they are the BEST thing to do. However, there is a lot of technique, practice, coordination you have to put in (just like climbing).

Actually iron106, you did imply that olympic lifts made you a better climber

name one sieries of workouts that make you stronger than an Olympic lifters are

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olymic lifting, p90x, cross fit and everything else is just training for the approach.

I'll throw my testimonial out there for p90x as well. I finished the 90 days (admittedly I didn't follow it perfectly...it's crazy intense) about 3 months ago, and am in the best shape of my life.
I've always been pretty fit, but the combination of bodyweight exercises, yoga, core workouts, and a bunch of crazy cardio (kenpo, plyometrics, etc) really took my body to the next level.

That being said, I do think the program is highly overpriced...but it does work.

Oh, and even if you don't plan on buying the program, the pull-up bar is great because you don't have to bolt it in the frame (unless you are on the chubby side), and it has all sorts of handles for wide grip, leg ups and stuff.

Alright, I'll bite. Let's make this more scientific. newguy5000, give us your before p90x climbing grade (both bouldering and route would be best) and post p90x grades, please specify if that is indoor or outdoor too. Depending on your post grades, I'll tell you the next step of the plan.

-Josh

this is SCIENCE this is how they split the atom. p90x is scientifcalyl provben to improve ur climbing as seen in my experminent on myself.

i dun wanna go into details of my climbn grade. its like if you were just gettin into a sport and you saw some olympic competitor it would put you off cause they are too good. I dun wanna turn anyone away from climbn cause they aint as hardcore as me. that sounds mad vain, but its not arrogant style if its true. i crank hard. i tell yo uthis though. i climb on walls with angles. thats right. angles.

All u need to know for ur test is i went up two grades on lead. and one grade on bouldern. after completn p90x.

[img]http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/images/Campus-Rungs.jpg[/img]

olymic lifting, p90x, cross fit and everything else is just training for the approach.