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PigsOnDrugs


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i feel mildly retarted for asking this but what carabiners would you approve to put a chalk bag on your harness, because im sick of the strap and i need a beaner that is lightweight and semi-small for a tighter hold


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Depends what colour chalk bag you have


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 One of those really small ones that isn't meant for climbing.


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I user two steel lockers opposite and opposed. I find that I'm more comfortable with the open gate strength of the steel 'biners. Gotta have redundancy.


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ShibbyShane wrote:
One of those really small ones that isn't meant for climbing.

I think that i would want one that is fer climbing just for emergency n such


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PigsOnDrugs wrote:
i fell mildly retarted for asking this but what carabeaners would you approve to put a chalk bag on your harness, because im sick of the strap and i need a beaner that is lightweight and semi-small for a tighter hold


thanks for comprehending my stupidityCool

ya know those little tiny ones they give to you at job fairs and when the marines are trying to recruit you...I just use one of those. No point in overthinking it...all you're really trying to do is keep your chalk bag attached to you...so what if it's not rated for climbing, unless your bag decides to flash some routes I think you'll be in the clear...


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Straps are bulky and annoying but they do allow you to move your bag from exactly in the back.

Some people thought they'd get smart and replace the strap with a piece of cordalette material. That way they could use it in an emergency.

Personally, I don't do this. I'm not one to count on my chalkbag to save my ass. This goes for the "climbing biner on my bag" crowd too.

Stop having epics that your only your chalkbag can save you from!!!

I use a shoelace. No bulk and I can rotate the bag just as well. I realistically might blow some shoelaces some day and I can still tie the old broken shoelace back together to hold up the bag (doesn't work if you're fat).

If these safety nazi's were really safe, they wouldn't be in a situation where where they need 3 more feet of cord to save their ass.


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caleb_danner wrote:
ShibbyShane wrote:
One of those really small ones that isn't meant for climbing.

I think that i would want one that is fer climbing just for emergency n such

If you find yourself in such a dire emergency that you find yourself using your chalkbag biner in earnest, then you've really, truly screwed the pooch. That said, I keep my keys on a miniature Kong biner that's rated to 1.5 kN - but that's just because I'm a dork.


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PigsOnDrugs wrote:
i fell mildly retarted for asking this but what carabeaners would you approve to put a chalk bag on your harness, because im sick of the strap and i need a beaner that is lightweight and semi-small for a tighter hold


thanks for comprehending my stupidityCool

You might be mildly retarded.


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PigsOnDrugs wrote:
i fell mildly retarted for asking this but what carabeaners would you approve to put a chalk bag on your harness, because im sick of the strap and i need a beaner that is lightweight and semi-small for a tighter hold

If you're going to feel mildly retarded about something, then it should be about how you spelled "carabiner."

Jay


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blondgecko wrote:
caleb_danner wrote:
ShibbyShane wrote:
One of those really small ones that isn't meant for climbing.

I think that i would want one that is fer climbing just for emergency n such

If you find yourself in such a dire emergency that you find yourself using your chalkbag biner in earnest, then you've really, truly screwed the pooch. That said, I keep my keys on a miniature Kong biner that's rated to 1.5 kN - but that's just because I'm a dork.

Have to say, that's pretty cool. I didn't know they made little biners that were rated to hold ANY weight, let along 1.5kn!


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For a serious reply... I know its agasint the rules on RC.noob.com and everything,

But if you really need the lightest biner (usually one of those cheapies will do) but you could buy one of these...

http://www.camp-usa.com/...s/nano-23-124503.asp


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ShibbyShane wrote:
blondgecko wrote:
caleb_danner wrote:
ShibbyShane wrote:
One of those really small ones that isn't meant for climbing.

I think that i would want one that is fer climbing just for emergency n such

If you find yourself in such a dire emergency that you find yourself using your chalkbag biner in earnest, then you've really, truly screwed the pooch. That said, I keep my keys on a miniature Kong biner that's rated to 1.5 kN - but that's just because I'm a dork.

Have to say, that's pretty cool. I didn't know they made little biners that were rated to hold ANY weight, let along 1.5kn!

Metollius (at least I think it's Metollius) now makes a keychain-sized biner that's fully rated to climbing. I so want one for my keys (and yes, I'm a gear freak / dork as well).


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d0nk3yk0n9 wrote:
ShibbyShane wrote:
blondgecko wrote:
caleb_danner wrote:
ShibbyShane wrote:
One of those really small ones that isn't meant for climbing.

I think that i would want one that is fer climbing just for emergency n such

If you find yourself in such a dire emergency that you find yourself using your chalkbag biner in earnest, then you've really, truly screwed the pooch. That said, I keep my keys on a miniature Kong biner that's rated to 1.5 kN - but that's just because I'm a dork.

Have to say, that's pretty cool. I didn't know they made little biners that were rated to hold ANY weight, let along 1.5kn!

Metollius (at least I think it's Metollius) now makes a keychain-sized biner that's fully rated to climbing. I so want one for my keys (and yes, I'm a gear freak / dork as well).

Goes well with: http://adtuition.com/...ff/1%3B%7Esscs%3D%3f

Doesn't it?


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There are two camps, those who use something that is rated to use as climbing equipment, and those who don't.

My only advice is don’t use something that looks like its rated to use as climbing equipment but is not. (like full size key ring carabineers)


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angry wrote:
Straps are bulky and annoying but they do allow you to move your bag from exactly in the back.

SInce when are straps BULKY. A strap puts the the chalkbag where I want it, not dangling and spinning around. Like you said, though, I can also move it side to side and even to the front if I want.

Josh


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How about using one of these: http://www.faders.es/...e&pro_id=400/8-L

or better yet, the locking version: http://www.faders.es/...e&pro_id=400/8-L

They're rated to 12kN, so they're as strong as most of your nuts or cams!


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Brhino90 wrote:
ya know those little tiny ones they give to you at job fairs and when the marines are trying to recruit you...I just use one of those. No point in overthinking it...all you're really trying to do is keep your chalk bag attached to you...so what if it's not rated for climbing, unless your bag decides to flash some routes I think you'll be in the clear...

Here's some information about those:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...iew_flat;post=715931


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it is a carbon fiber key chain carabiner... and it only costs $20!

p.s. not intended for climbing


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crazy_fingers84 wrote:
[image]http://media.rei.com/media/ii/7a7757c8-2c8f-4691-974c-56bed1e1cb17.jpg[/image]

it is a carbon fiber key chain carabiner... and it only costs $20!

p.s. not intended for climbing

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I tie mine on the back of my harness, near the haul loop, with a piece of cord. It works fine.


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angry wrote:
PigsOnDrugs wrote:
i fell mildly retarted for asking this but what carabeaners would you approve to put a chalk bag on your harness, because im sick of the strap and i need a beaner that is lightweight and semi-small for a tighter hold


thanks for comprehending my stupidityCool

You might be mildly retarded.

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If it's on a biner, you can't pull it around in a chimney and it hangs low.

I'm no safety nazi, but my vote goes for the rated cord tied around the waist. If I need to prussic, I'll use that and my auto block cord. Or I'll use it for a rap anchor, need be. Why not?


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angry wrote:
Straps are bulky and annoying but they do allow you to move your bag from exactly in the back.

Some people thought they'd get smart and replace the strap with a piece of cordalette material. That way they could use it in an emergency.

Personally, I don't do this. I'm not one to count on my chalkbag to save my ass. This goes for the "climbing biner on my bag" crowd too.

Stop having epics that your only your chalkbag can save you from!!!

I use a shoelace. No bulk and I can rotate the bag just as well. I realistically might blow some shoelaces some day and I can still tie the old broken shoelace back together to hold up the bag (doesn't work if you're fat).

If these safety nazi's were really safe, they wouldn't be in a situation where where they need 3 more feet of cord to save their ass.

I typically agree with a lot of what you have to say, but criticizing people who use cord for the chalk bag just doesn't make any sense. It's not much bulkier than a shoe string, and it's functional. I've used mine and lent it out at the crag when someone needs one and doesn't have a prussik. I would call myself neither a safety nazi nor stupid (yes that is implied above). In fact, I'd call myself quite proficient and knowledgable, and able to get out of strange situations with minimal gear.

I recommend you take some 6mm cord and tie it around your waist to attach the chalk bag. It is a little less bulky than a "strap" and highly functional as a prussik if you need one! Wink

Josh


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angry wrote:
PigsOnDrugs wrote:
i fell mildly retarted for asking this but what carabeaners would you approve to put a chalk bag on your harness, because im sick of the strap and i need a beaner that is lightweight and semi-small for a tighter hold


thanks for comprehending my stupidityCool

You might be mildly retarded.

And, as I said, I typically agree with what you have to say...

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