Go the fuck back to gym (or to the Red) where all you elitist people think you own every cliff you flop up... and quit your bitching. its people like you that annoy ME.

Yea i was a shithead as a kid...

Leave the little bastards at home until they can be responsible for their own actions. I don't fucking care how cute they look in their little full body harness, or if they are the next chris fucking sharma. Keep them at home until they are of a responsible age, and don't annoy the fuck out of your fellow climbers.

So all of you are ok with inattentive parents letting 3 toddlers wander around a crag throwing rocks, crying and almost injuring themselves. that's cool.

A few months ago i was part of a group with a 3 yr old. Group of 4 adults one being the parent. She barely made a peep longer than 10 seconds the whole weekend. We all took turns taking care of her and making sure she was playing safely and not crying. When she did try to do something wrong she was told not to and why not.. she will learn much more than those kids screaming and throwing rocks with no intervention.

I think the point of the guy's post was the inattentive parents and the reckless and unsafe behavior of the kids. not that they were actually there.

I was trolling, yup I admit to it and you took the bait. NEXT.

3. You obviously don't have kids, so you casn't possibly appreciate the difficulties that adults with kids face, in terms of finding appropriate overnight childcare for young children.

So all of you are ok with inattentive parents letting 3 toddlers wander around a crag throwing rocks, crying and almost injuring themselves. that's cool.

A few months ago i was part of a group with a 3 yr old. Group of 4 adults one being the parent. She barely made a peep longer than 10 seconds the whole weekend. We all took turns taking care of her and making sure she was playing safely and not crying. When she did try to do something wrong she was told not to and why not.. she will learn much more than those kids screaming and throwing rocks with no intervention.

I think the point of the guy's post was the inattentive parents and the reckless and unsafe behavior of the kids. not that they were actually there.

I think a few of the righteous FUs and "you obviously don't have kids" dismissals are missing the point.

Kids, by definition, are spazzes. Cute, but they know not what they do.

+1
Amen!!!
glad to see some people take care of there children in public places.
It's becoming a lost art.

So, a few weekends ago, I was up at rumney for some sport goodness. While it was pretty hot and humid, it was a pretty good weekend for sending, and I ticked some good routes for me. It was a good weekend overall, except for one major issue.

Leave your children at home. They do not belong at the crag, and by bringing them, you are not only ruining someone else's good time, you are putting them in a hazardous environment where the supervision is distracted by ideations of sending some sick 5.9 routes.

There is a back story to my anger. We were climbing at new wave, and as soon as we got to the area, another party with three children and a maximum age of 5 showed up. There were three adults in the group, and all the requisite equipment, including but not limited to: A tent, several toy trucks, three kid carriers, and all of the other crap that comes with hauling children into an environment which they clearly do not belong. They soon proved this by throwing rocks down the trail, running around and screaming, crying, and being a general nuisance.


The adult supervision treated their misbehavior with gentle scolding and no attempt to remedy the rock throwing or running around, as they were busy climbing. They did take the opportunity to scold me for swearing in frustration after falling on a route

Not only were they annoying, they potentially endangered their kids by bringing them to a hazardous place, and this was evident when one of the younger children lost his footing and tumbled, much like a pinball, about 5 feet down the trail, to the utter shock of the parents. He fortunately was uninjured.

Keep your fucking kids at home. The crag is not a safe place for children to run around, and not only do you put them in danger, you annoy the shit out of any other parties trying to have a good weekend. And then you bitch about my language when you brought them to an adult location.

Leave the little bastards at home until they can be responsible for their own actions. I don't fucking care how cute they look in their little full body harness, or if they are the next chris fucking sharma. Keep them at home until they are of a responsible age, and don't annoy the fuck out of your fellow climbers.

Sounds like you still are.

Curt

True, but we love you anyway.

Curt

Thanks for throwin that in there. You're cool.

Your kid has never pissed me off at the crags. Sure, he looks just like you but the poor little man can't help that.

At least he's clearly had good parents.

Just wait till you have kids. I hope somebody reads this back to you.

Curt

3. You obviously don't have kids, blah blah blah i have kids and therefore i am better than you...

4. You do not have kids, so see above, scumbag

Nope. Not buying it.

All of the following are fair game for a rant:
- Crag dogs
- Boom Boxes
- Gibbering clots of gumbies
- Spraylord bullshit


Children, on the other hand, are perfectly acceptable. Hell, it's unusual these days to see parents willing to spend quality time with their kids outdoors. Props to em. If you don't like it do what most folks do when I break out the lycra at the crag: find somewhere else to climb.

I've only seen set ups like that at the Meadows and where it was one kid in a playpen with one parent. I wouldn't think someone would haul all that shit up higher. I probably woulda been pissed too..

Would you have posted the same thing if the child that fell 5 feet was at Bonsai and took a 30 footer off the ledge and had been seriously injured or worse?