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majid_sabet
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healyje wrote: subantz wrote: I call bullshit, 30 watch your tongue. Just look at angry hes like 50 pulling down hard. Go angry you old mudder trucker.  Well, let's have a little speculative quiz - what percentage of climbers who start climbing before the age of 20 are still climbing post-30? I'm guessing way, way south of 50% myself...
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dingus
Aug 3, 2009, 8:32 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th
Depends on what you mean by 'climbers.'
I'd say the #1 cause for drop out is the realization that the person just doesn't like it.
"Climbing would be great if it weren't for all that climbing."
I think, for any given crop of wouldbe noob climbers? The 10-year drop out rate is WAY above 90%. Now some of that 90% will insist for years afterward, that they are climbers.
But they climb little if nothing at all. Because BEING a climber is more important than 'all that climbing.'
Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me.
But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink.
If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB.
Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact.
DMT
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dingus
Aug 3, 2009, 8:33 PM
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healyje wrote: subantz wrote: I call bullshit, 30 watch your tongue. Just look at angry hes like 50 pulling down hard. Go angry you old mudder trucker. Well, let's have a little speculative quiz - what percentage of climbers who start climbing before the age of 20 are still climbing post-30? I'm guessing way, way south of 50% myself...
Less than 10% is my guess.
DMT
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dingus
Aug 3, 2009, 8:38 PM
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jt512 wrote: On third thought, do you actually climb? Jay
This strikes to the heart of the matter, not just for majid but for you, me and everyone else.
You're only a climber when you're climbing.
If your climbing (the figurative 'you') is 97% done in the gym, then you're a gym climber. No amount of wanking on the internet will put the wild in 97% gym time. I can't imagine a pure gym climber lasting a decade wanking on plastic.
DMT
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tomtom
Aug 3, 2009, 8:39 PM
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1) The ground.
2) The rope.
3) The summit.
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dingus
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curt wrote: subantz wrote: I call bullshit, 30 watch your tongue. Just look at angry hes like 50 pulling down hard. Go angry you old mudder trucker. If angry is 50, that makes me around 100. Curt
Is that dog ears? I mean years!
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dingus
Aug 3, 2009, 8:42 PM
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tomtom wrote: 1) The ground. 2) The rope. 3) The summit.
We have a winner! This is the correct answer it seems!
Those other things don't stop climber.
DMT
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Climbing_Pink
Aug 3, 2009, 9:11 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: bill413 wrote: As Oh, and getting stuck in flatland. ...sobs quietly to himself in the corner...
Windsor ish flat....very flat and now our gym is closed....
so... we climb the windmill
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bobbj22
Aug 3, 2009, 9:17 PM
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In reply to: Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact.
I agree, if you want to be lonely. I love to climb but I like my lady friend too. Plus the rock doesn't make pancakes for me and it doesn't bang me (maybe poor word choice).
If I wanted a climbing girlfriend I would've cut my odds by at least 75%. I mean I'm a good looking guy but I don't want to work THAT hard. Plus, I like my barbie.
You are definitely right though. If you want to climb, you will. Dealing with the consequences when you return is another issue.
I had to go to a wedding instead of Rendezvous '09. But I held it over her head until I got three more trips out of it. Crafty, I know.
If you're good to them, they'll let you go..unless you don't see each other very often and then that might make things worse and they will want to be with you more. So you should just go anyways.
You know what, nevermind. After rereading my post I'm dropping her off by the curb. What was I talking about? CAN I SAYZ FAIL? I'm going climbing now.
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dingus
Aug 3, 2009, 9:48 PM
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bobbj22 wrote: In reply to: Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact. I agree, if you want to be lonely. I love to climb but I like my lady friend too. Plus the rock doesn't make pancakes for me and it doesn't bang me (maybe poor word choice). If I wanted a climbing girlfriend I would've cut my odds by at least 75%. I mean I'm a good looking guy but I don't want to work THAT hard. Plus, I like my barbie. You are definitely right though. If you want to climb, you will. Dealing with the consequences when you return is another issue. I had to go to a wedding instead of Rendezvous '09. But I held it over her head until I got three more trips out of it. Crafty, I know. If you're good to them, they'll let you go..unless you don't see each other very often and then that might make things worse and they will want to be with you more. So you should just go anyways. You know what, nevermind. After rereading my post I'm dropping her off by the curb. What was I talking about? CAN I SAYZ FAIL? I'm going climbing now.
Bad weather good weather its all climbing weather.
DMT
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Toast_in_the_Machine
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dingus wrote: jt512 wrote: On third thought, do you actually climb? Jay This strikes to the heart of the matter, not just for majid but for you, me and everyone else. You're only a climber when you're climbing. If your climbing (the figurative 'you') is 97% done in the gym, then you're a gym climber. No amount of wanking on the internet will put the wild in 97% gym time. I can't imagine a pure gym climber lasting a decade wanking on plastic. DMT
...again sobs quietly in the corner...
..looks with sad puppy eyes...
..mutters pleadingly "wanking won't help?"...
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asiaclimber
Aug 3, 2009, 10:20 PM
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dingus wrote: majid_sabet wrote: IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th Depends on what you mean by 'climbers.' I'd say the #1 cause for drop out is the realization that the person just doesn't like it. "Climbing would be great if it weren't for all that climbing." I think, for any given crop of wouldbe noob climbers? The 10-year drop out rate is WAY above 90%. Now some of that 90% will insist for years afterward, that they are climbers. But they climb little if nothing at all. Because BEING a climber is more important than 'all that climbing.' Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact. DMT
Agreed.
1. Have brooken up with nagging GF many times
2. lived in a place were the closest climbing was 6hr's away. Still climbed every weekend.
3. Tore my achilles and contracted seratia post repair operation(necrotizing bacteria) it ate my achilles and most of my cafe mouscle. I was told I would never walk again. Climbing is what motivated me to get off my ass and prove the Dr. wrong. One year latter next week and I am climbing 11.c again.
If you want to climb you will find a way.
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bill413
Aug 3, 2009, 11:14 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: bill413 wrote: As inconceivable as it might be; loss of interest happens also. Oh, and getting stuck in flatland. ...sobs quietly to himself in the corner...
Sorry.
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bill413
Aug 3, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: dingus wrote: jt512 wrote: On third thought, do you actually climb? Jay This strikes to the heart of the matter, not just for majid but for you, me and everyone else. You're only a climber when you're climbing. If your climbing (the figurative 'you') is 97% done in the gym, then you're a gym climber. No amount of wanking on the internet will put the wild in 97% gym time. I can't imagine a pure gym climber lasting a decade wanking on plastic. DMT ...again sobs quietly in the corner... ..looks with sad puppy eyes... ..mutters pleadingly "wanking won't help?"...
Well, it could strengthen certain things that might be helpful.
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CrazyPetie
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Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now.
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zchandran
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CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now.
Damn. One of my friends drove through a store window with a BAC of 0.22, and he only spent one night in jail. Talk about a messed up system.
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CrazyPetie
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tell me about it dude.. My "crime" didn't even hurt anyone anyones' FEELINGS let alone physical or property damage. And now i'm out of climbing for who knows how long. I'm still waiting for my trial.
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acorneau
Aug 4, 2009, 2:40 AM
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CrazyPetie wrote: tell me about it dude.. My "crime" didn't even hurt anyone anyones' FEELINGS ...
Dude, you committed a crime, not a "crime".
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CrazyPetie
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acorneau wrote: CrazyPetie wrote: tell me about it dude.. My "crime" didn't even hurt anyone anyones' FEELINGS ... Dude, you committed a crime, not a "crime".
Thats debatable. A crime, in my opinion, is something that is illegal and immoral all over the world. You couldn't say, "hey i'm going to goto Amsterdam to murder some people. I hear its legal there." Growing a plant is hardly a crime. and if you think otherwise i really dont wanna hear what you have to say cause it will just piss me off.
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dingus
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CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now.
Well at LEAST YOU'RE not ABUSING CAPITAL letters YET!
(look on the bright side)
DMT
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zchandran wrote: CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now. Damn. One of my friends drove through a store window with a BAC of 0.22, and he only spent one night in jail. Talk about a messed up system.
Thank America's War On [SOME] Drugs for that.
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austinnokc
Aug 4, 2009, 8:31 AM
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CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now.
See my reason is having to be at work supervising all the people who got caught growing marijuana, killed somebody, and other unspeakables. Having the badge hinders climbing sometimes.
Austin
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If you want to murder someone, go to sudan. Nobody cares about killings there.
(just saying that illegal and immoral all over the world is a pretty harsh standard...)
In reply to: and if you think otherwise i really dont wanna hear what you have to say cause it will just piss me off.
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Sorry bro. 
