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karmiclimber
Aug 5, 2009, 4:14 AM
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This place is like Alice in Wonderland. I did not start that argument. I was merely expressing my disbelief that said argument was taking place.
Agree dogs and rock throwing children at home. And crazy climber dads also. 'Cept the hot, gnarly ones. They can bring their rock throwing children.
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dingus
Aug 5, 2009, 4:25 AM
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karmiclimber wrote: I seriously can't believe there is an argument about throwing rocks at a crag, ANY crag. We don't do it. No throwing rocks girls and boys. How many have been killed or injured by rock trundling? Case closed. Thank you.
No one's arguing about anything. We're just doin the dozens internet style, now stfu.
DMT
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shockabuku
Aug 5, 2009, 4:25 AM
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karmiclimber wrote: Dude. You. Are like every other nutso soccer dad/mom in my neighborhood. CRAZY. But instead, you are besotting the name of "climber" with your insanity. With no hope of recovery. Good luck with that.
Really, I'm pretty much okay with my version of crazy. Thanks.
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karmiclimber
Aug 5, 2009, 4:27 AM
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Ooooh. Are we not a hot climber dad? :-/
Next?
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dr_feelgood
Aug 5, 2009, 4:28 AM
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karmiclimber wrote: I seriously can't believe there is an argument about throwing rocks at a crag, ANY crag. We don't do it. No throwing rocks girls and boys. How many have been killed or injured by rock trundling? Case closed. Thank you.
Wasn't there a guide killed in the wind river range by some dude hucking a rock over the edge?
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karmiclimber
Aug 5, 2009, 4:29 AM
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Clearly. Its really more your children I'm worried about. I get the whole fuck the man, blah blah, rules are for breaking 12 year old boy bs you are spewing...but some rules are grounded in REALITY.
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dingus
Aug 5, 2009, 4:30 AM
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karmiclimber wrote: Ooooh. Are we not a hot climber dad? :-/ Next?
(sigh)
I'm so misunderstood.
Cuddles!
DMT
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airdo
Aug 5, 2009, 4:32 AM
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climberguy2011,
Sounds like you don't have children and I suggest you keep it that way.
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karmiclimber
Aug 5, 2009, 4:33 AM
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Your mom cuddles.
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technogeekery
Aug 5, 2009, 10:11 AM
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 this is one of the best cases of thread-degeneration I've seen for a long time...
I'm teaching my kids to throw rocks at crag dogs, once they get their eye in I'm taking them climbing.
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hyhuu
Aug 5, 2009, 11:15 AM
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What about climbers who throw tantrum, shoes or helmets at the crag? I've seen a few before. Somehow they seemed to believe the behaviors could compensate for their lack of skills.
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ladyscarlett
Aug 5, 2009, 11:33 AM
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robbovius wrote: then you will never, ever, not ever, fully mature, and will spend your life in a state of arrested adolescense. ....and every other parent reading this thread, knows that for the truth. the truest fullness of your humanity, the only true measure of success, is in raising children. all else is gloss.
All the rest of th content in the thread aside...
I would REALLY love to be there when you say this to a child or grandchild of yours who tells you he/she has decided not to have children....
And yes, breeders always win, but by that time, I'll be dead, and I won't care who wins or looses. Heh.
crazy post.
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dingus
Aug 5, 2009, 12:02 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: Your mom cuddles.
Sure thing pickle.
DMT
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bobbj22
Aug 5, 2009, 1:06 PM
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In reply to: Seems to me that rocks are the original throwing items, long before balls.
Correct and made for an early form of execution.
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shockabuku
Aug 5, 2009, 1:22 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: Clearly. Its really more your children I'm worried about. I get the whole fuck the man, blah blah, rules are for breaking 12 year old boy bs you are spewing...but some rules are grounded in REALITY.
Like always use a cordellette on three pieces of pro?
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Aug 5, 2009, 1:29 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: Yeah, I know what you are saying. My girl loves hiking, but she is sort of afraid of the tent :-/ And she is afraid of heights...she even wigs out when I climb...I think maybe if I take her more often, she will feel better? Either that or she needs to get to an age where she can understand what I'm saying more easily.
Both waiting until she is older, and taking her now more often, is likely to produce the same result in the end... so it is up to you, really.
My daughter went through a phase when she was freaking out when I climbed, even though she was in her Dad's arms at the time. I think it had something to do with separation enxiety-- "oh, no, mom is going somewhere where I can't possibly get to her!!!!"--that sort of thing. We kept reassuring her that everything was O.K., that mom would be back down shortly, and the phase did not last long.
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snowboardercolo
Aug 5, 2009, 1:30 PM
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Hmmm,
Cute kids with HOT moms. Has anyone else noticed how HOT they look? I vote for the MOMS!
You come off as a unused tool that craves attention. Wow "Sending some sick 5.9s?" Is there such a thing? What a NOOB!
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jakedatc
Aug 5, 2009, 1:40 PM
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snowboardercolo wrote: Hmmm, Cute kids with HOT moms. Has anyone else noticed how HOT they look? I vote for the MOMS! You come off as a unused tool that craves attention. Wow "Sending some sick 5.9s?" Is there such a thing? What a NOOB!
says the guy who leads 5.8 noob..
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camhead
Aug 5, 2009, 2:11 PM
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jakedatc wrote: snowboardercolo wrote: Hmmm, Cute kids with HOT moms. Has anyone else noticed how HOT they look? I vote for the MOMS! You come off as a unused tool that craves attention. Wow "Sending some sick 5.9s?" Is there such a thing? What a NOOB! says the guy who leads 5.8 noob..
he just doesn't update his ascent list. he's too busy crushing 5.14.
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j_ung
Aug 5, 2009, 2:12 PM
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I was sitting in Pies and Pints the other night, when a baby erupted into fits of very loud crying. My gawd, that kid had lungs. However, after about 20 seconds, when it became obvious that she wasn't going to stop anytime soon, the mother scooped her up and walked outside. Five minutes later she strolled back in with a calm, cooing baby in her arms.
I certainly respected both the woman's parenting ability and her consideration for other diners. She has every right to bring her baby into the restaurant. We had a right to peaceful dining. She split the difference between the two and everybody, including the baby, was happy.
IMO, the same goes at crags. A sweeping generalizatiion that small children should or should not be "allowed" is ridiculous. Parents have every right (in every legal sense of the word "right") to bring children to crags, however, other climbers also have a right to expect those children to be under control. Rights come with responsibilities and parents have the absolute responsibility to either control their childrens' behavior or take them someplace else. Not to do so is selfish, dangerous and arguably criminal in a worst-case scenario.
Minus the dangerous and criminal part, the same goes for restaurants, movies... you name it.
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rockandlice
Aug 5, 2009, 2:20 PM
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What's wrong with you Jay!? That post was totally on topic and uncalled for! 
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dingus
Aug 5, 2009, 2:30 PM
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j_ung wrote: I was sitting in Pies and Pints the other night, when a baby erupted into fits of very loud crying. My gawd, that kid had lungs. However, after about 20 seconds, when it became obvious that she wasn't going to stop anytime soon, the mother scooped her up and walked outside. Five minutes later she strolled back in with a calm, cooing baby in her arms. I certainly respected both the woman's parenting ability and her consideration for other diners. She has every right to bring her baby into the restaurant. We had a right to peaceful dining. She split the difference between the two and everybody, including the baby, was happy. IMO, the same goes at crags. A sweeping generalizatiion that small children should or should not be "allowed" is ridiculous. Parents have every right (in every legal sense of the word "right") to bring children to crags, however, other climbers also have a right to expect those children to be under control. Rights come with responsibilities and parents have the absolute responsibility to either control their childrens' behavior or take them someplace else. Not to do so is selfish, dangerous and arguably criminal in a worst-case scenario. Minus the dangerous and criminal part, the same goes for restaurants, movies... you name it.
Tell you what - when the screamers STFU and the spraylords stfu and the betamasters stuf then they've a case against loud children.
But not until then.
Scream on kids. Those angry young men don't own the crag.
DMT
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j_ung
Aug 5, 2009, 2:42 PM
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dingus wrote: Tell you what - when the screamers STFU and the spraylords stfu and the betamasters stuf then they've a case against loud children. But not until then. Scream on kids. Those angry young men don't own the crag. DMT
I'm none of the above, therefore my opinion is valid (?)
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