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BenKenobi
Feb 24, 2010, 9:09 PM
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Saw a great deal for this rope on REI, wondering if anyone has any thoughts about the rope or New England ropes in general. I did a search and didn't find anything.
http://www.rei.com/product/800461
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cracklover
Feb 24, 2010, 10:35 PM
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I've had a New England Rope before. No problems with it.
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lofstromc
Feb 24, 2010, 10:37 PM
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Me too. No problems.
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mjwestla
Feb 24, 2010, 10:52 PM
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I see they also have a blue water rope on sale:
http://www.rei.com/product/751911
I've got the same rope and it's great, a real workhorse with good handling.
I don't know much about that particular model New England Rope however that company brings to mind the following: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08346.html.
I think it's great that they stepped up and did the responsible thing by recalling it, but it still creeps me out, esp on a single point of failure item like a rope.
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BenKenobi
Feb 25, 2010, 4:42 AM
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Thanks for the replies everyone, I appreciate it!
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dan2see
Feb 25, 2010, 5:51 AM
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New England recalled a couple of 9.2 mm ropes, but NOT the Apex, which is 10.2. I have an Apex, although it's a green color.
I think it's the best rope ever invented for the Rocky Mountains. The tight mantel presents low friction on rough limestone trad routes, which I think is its best advantage.
It gets dirty on sport belays, so I've washed it a couple of times.
This winter I tried ice-climbing with it, paired with a skinny ice rope. It got wet alright, and froze a little, but still good for belay and rappel.
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vegastradguy
Feb 25, 2010, 7:30 AM
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NE Ropes (and Maxim, same company) have probably the best hand of any rope on the market (ymmv), but to be honest, the impact forces on 'em are just way too high for my taste. the Apex has 9.4kn...most ropes in the 10.2mm range have impact forces from 7.5-8.8kn for reference.
not a bad rope, but if you're gonna be falling on it alot- i'd probably look elsewhere for a softer catch.
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bill413
Feb 25, 2010, 3:52 PM
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bennydh wrote: Call it random sampling, or whatever... I clicked on the M Mtn. link. it reads In reply to: "If attached incorrectly, the climber's swami belt can be held by only a small piece of elastic behind the sleeve. Climbers who don't realize this mistake create a dangerous situation..." Did I misinterpret... Or does that not mean used incorrectly it is dangerous? Seems like all equipment in climbing is susceptible to this recall. 
True. But, there is also the factor of how easy it is to use incorrectly, or how noticible it is if you hook it up wrong. I infer that in the case of the MM recall, people could do this easily without realizing it. So, yes, it is their responsibility, but you don't want to put a product out there that encourages mistakes.
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BenKenobi
Feb 25, 2010, 5:03 PM
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dan2see wrote: New England recalled a couple of 9.2 mm ropes, but NOT the Apex, which is 10.2. I have an Apex, although it's a green color. I think it's the best rope ever invented for the Rocky Mountains. The tight mantel presents low friction on rough limestone trad routes, which I think is its best advantage. It gets dirty on sport belays, so I've washed it a couple of times. This winter I tried ice-climbing with it, paired with a skinny ice rope. It got wet alright, and froze a little, but still good for belay and rappel.
Was/is yours dry-treated?
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BenKenobi
Feb 25, 2010, 5:09 PM
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vegastradguy wrote: NE Ropes (and Maxim, same company) have probably the best hand of any rope on the market (ymmv), but to be honest, the impact forces on 'em are just way too high for my taste. the Apex has 9.4kn...most ropes in the 10.2mm range have impact forces from 7.5-8.8kn for reference. not a bad rope, but if you're gonna be falling on it alot- i'd probably look elsewhere for a softer catch.
Good point. I noticed that the dynamic/static elongation numbers seemed lower than other similar ropes, i.e., the Apex provides less elongation than other ropes.
I currently have a Beal 10.2 that is rated at 8kn and it seems to provide a nice, soft catch.
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