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Rudmin
Mar 15, 2010, 3:23 AM
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That's links cams
Wouldn't want to confuse them with other less reputable brands.
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unrooted
Mar 15, 2010, 4:12 AM
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About time, I guess I'll have to buy a few sets!
Who wants to climb with me and my new cams? I'll even let you take the first lead!
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MS1
Mar 15, 2010, 3:56 PM
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The thought of falling on one of those metal-shop monstrosities gives me the SHITZPANTZFEAR.
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JAB
Mar 15, 2010, 5:02 PM
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Wow. They have all kinds of stuff nowadays. Even plastic nuts, good for 13.5 kN! I wonder what the application for them are? Really soft rock? Or just that you get a larger nut for the same weight?
(This post was edited by JAB on Mar 15, 2010, 5:03 PM)
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cleethree
Mar 15, 2010, 5:32 PM
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i'd rather climb on these than aliens.
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mats.isaksson
Mar 15, 2010, 5:49 PM
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13mm range on the #5, 56-69mm. I guess it takes some skill to reach for the right one in a stressed situation.
The Camalot #3 goes from 51-88mm, nearly three times the range (double axle). The one axle WC friend 51-82mm.
Guess which ones I have in my rack...
Mats
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JohnCook
Mar 15, 2010, 7:05 PM
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Perhaps now they will stop using OP linkcam as a title on e-bay etc. Recently I complained to e-bay when there was a picture of the cheapo's with a link cam in the same picture(for comparison?) and no explanation which unit was for sale. E-bay removed the offending sale immediately.
Doesn't the ce certification mean that the manufacturing process meets a standard, not the performance of the final product. Perhaps a UIAA or BMC certification may mean more. It will to me, as these things sell cheap because they look cheap and are probably made cheap. Rather spend more and live!
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brownie710
Mar 15, 2010, 7:20 PM
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i've seen much better cams featured in Adatemsman's cam contest!
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patmay81
Mar 15, 2010, 7:23 PM
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JAB wrote: Wow. They have all kinds of stuff nowadays. Even plastic nuts, good for 13.5 kN! I wonder what the application for them are? Really soft rock? Or just that you get a larger nut for the same weight?
none of this is to say I will ever be climbing on platic nuts...
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bhp
Mar 15, 2010, 7:25 PM
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The CE logo they use on the images of the link cams is incorrect. A real one looks like this : 
Theirs looks like this:
Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their attention to detail.
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shoo
Mar 16, 2010, 2:30 AM
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The company website says you can get a copy of the CE cert. I have e-mailed them requesting it. I'll report back what I find, assuming they ever get back to me.
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msiddens
Mar 16, 2010, 3:28 AM
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might as well solo
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evanwish
Mar 17, 2010, 7:13 PM
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shoo wrote: The company website says you can get a copy of the CE cert. I have e-mailed them requesting it. I'll report back what I find, assuming they ever get back to me.
Nice! I want to hear about this if they ever get back to you.
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bhp
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I sent a similar request and they replied almost immediately with the certificate. Something like that is not exactly impossible to forge, but there's certainly nothing that stands out as faked. You can download the certificate here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/364742193/SKMBT_C45010030512140.pdf.html
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styndall
Mar 17, 2010, 10:31 PM
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Is it really so hard to believe that a small Czech company could make a decent cheap cam?
This thread seriously smacks of not quite racism, but certainly serious prejudice against eastern Europe.
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johnwesely
Mar 17, 2010, 10:38 PM
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styndall wrote: Is it really so hard to believe that a small Czech company could make a decent cheap cam? This thread seriously smacks of not quite racism, but certainly serious prejudice against eastern Europe.
Have you seen the cams?
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evanwish
Mar 18, 2010, 1:35 AM
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johnwesely wrote: styndall wrote: Is it really so hard to believe that a small Czech company could make a decent cheap cam? This thread seriously smacks of not quite racism, but certainly serious prejudice against eastern Europe. Have you seen the cams?
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styndall
Mar 18, 2010, 1:49 AM
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johnwesely wrote: styndall wrote: Is it really so hard to believe that a small Czech company could make a decent cheap cam? This thread seriously smacks of not quite racism, but certainly serious prejudice against eastern Europe. Have you seen the cams?
Yeah. They don't look like the company pays particularly careful attention to cosmetic finish, but the structure is the same as lots of other cams.
I still use some of my aliens, though, take that how you will.
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adatesman
Mar 18, 2010, 2:42 AM
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gbclimber
Mar 18, 2010, 4:40 AM
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I got a set of these (at least the single stem colored set) a few years back...i think it was 120 for the set of 5.
My 2 cents: you get what you pay for. These cams are pretty crap when it comes to overall quality. The stems are unstable (they bend when you crank the lobes all the way), the cams walk really easily, and they have a pretty small expansion range.
However, with that said, I've aided with them and fallen on them with no complaints, but I'd still recommend investing in a real set of cams that won't walk away the first pitch you set them on.
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wallwombat
Mar 19, 2010, 8:18 AM
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gbclimber wrote: I got a set of these (at least the single stem colored set) a few years back...i think it was 120 for the set of 5. My 2 cents: you get what you pay for. These cams are pretty crap when it comes to overall quality. The stems are unstable (they bend when you crank the lobes all the way), the cams walk really easily, and they have a pretty small expansion range. However, with that said, I've aided with them and fallen on them with no complaints, but I'd still recommend investing in a real set of cams that won't walk away the first pitch you set them on.
Me too. I use mine to beef up my aid rack. Got them a couple of years ago. They are rough but I trust them. I rarely use them on free climbs. Never actually but I have fallen on them.
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airscape
Mar 19, 2010, 8:38 AM
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styndall wrote: Is it really so hard to believe that a small Czech company could make a decent cheap cam? This thread seriously smacks of not quite racism, but certainly serious prejudice against eastern Europe.
We have to crush their new found capitalist ways.
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robbovius
Mar 23, 2010, 3:54 PM
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johnwesely wrote: styndall wrote: Is it really so hard to believe that a small Czech company could make a decent cheap cam? This thread seriously smacks of not quite racism, but certainly serious prejudice against eastern Europe. Have you seen the cams?
I bought one when they only cost $10. I've carried it on my rack, set it on leads and used it in various gear anchors, and ...
it works fine. its held my weight, its gripped the rock as good as any of my other single axle cams, and has taken a decent beating. yeah it looks a liitle rough. big deal. get over it, ya snobs.
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