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cjon3s
Apr 7, 2010, 7:44 PM
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Alright, I've searched everywhere and since I do not open a copy of JL's climbing anchors, I can't look it up. Can anyone describe to me (or better yet show me) how to tie the quad?
Thanks! 
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acorneau
Apr 7, 2010, 8:10 PM
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cjon3s wrote: Alright, I've searched everywhere and since I do not open a copy of JL's climbing anchors, I can't look it up. Can anyone describe to me (or better yet show me) how to tie the quad? Thanks!
Take your cordelette, fold it in half, tie fig-8 or overhand knots a few inches on both sides of the center.
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cleethree
Apr 7, 2010, 8:11 PM
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...and clip 2 or 3 strands.
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bill413
Apr 7, 2010, 8:15 PM
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End result:
double loop : knot : 4 strands : knot : double loop
anchor the loops; clip some of the strands. Bomber (well, as much as the anchors are).
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LappedDog
Apr 8, 2010, 4:35 PM
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I understand the quad - thanks for the instructions. However, do you use only one biner to clip into it? Is the single biner sufficient for top roping subsequent climbers? If not, how would you clip the second - to the same 2-3 loops, or to the ones that weren't used by the first biner.
Thanks
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acorneau
Apr 8, 2010, 4:53 PM
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LappedDog wrote: I understand the quad - thanks for the instructions. However, do you use only one biner to clip into it? Is the single biner sufficient for top roping subsequent climbers? If not, how would you clip the second - to the same 2-3 loops, or to the ones that weren't used by the first biner.
1. Yes, I would use a single locker to clove hitch myself to the master point.
2. If I were using it as a top-rope rig I would use 2 biners for a larger radius.
3. If a second is climbing up you can use a single locker for an ATC-Guide/Reverso and when they get there use a single locker to clove hitch them to the same master point. No reason to mix and match your cord strands.
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bill413
Apr 8, 2010, 4:57 PM
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One biner is never really enough for the master point of a TR setup. Even if it's a locker. Always use 2.
I suspect it's better to clip both biners to the same strands - it lets them lie in a more parallel fashion. I'm not sure if it matters.
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Adk
Apr 9, 2010, 12:48 AM
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bill413 wrote: One biner is never really enough for the master point of a TR setup. Even if it's a locker. Always use 2.
It also creates a larger radius for the rope.
(This post was edited by Adk on Apr 9, 2010, 2:39 PM)
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reno
Apr 9, 2010, 2:04 AM
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Adk wrote: bill413 wrote: One biner is never really enough for the master point of a TR setup. Even if it's a locker. Always use 2. quote] It also creates a larger radius for the rope.
And it creates Cheesetits.
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Adk
Apr 9, 2010, 2:37 PM
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What terrible quoting that was. Fixed!!
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