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pbcowboy77
Dec 2, 2002, 5:33 AM
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So if your looking at buying a rope, don't get a 50 meter. I know they are cheeper but your gonna get screwed. I was climbing with a beginner that had just bought a rope and it cut me short on a rappel. It didn't help that when I asked him if it was a 60 meter he said yes, then when we ended up 10 short on a rappel he rembered it was a 50 meter.
Just to help out everyone out there.
-Zac
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ksfrogman
Dec 2, 2002, 6:45 AM
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Excuse me for being ignorant, but 1 meter is about 39 inches? So 60 meters is 195 feet, and 50 meters about 163 feet?
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wildtrail
Dec 2, 2002, 7:59 AM
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Yup. 39.4 to be a little more exact. He's right. Just get the 60 meter rope. You won't have to spend another 100+ dollars again later.
Steve
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geezergecko
Dec 2, 2002, 2:14 PM
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Well yes, if you are climbing anything higher than 80 feet. Around here the cliffs are 50 to 70 feet high and so 50 meters (165 feet) is not a problem and the weight saving of 15% less rope makes for a lighter pack.
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pbcowboy77
Dec 2, 2002, 7:07 PM
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If you buy a rope just long enough for your crag then when you hit up a road trip you might be in trouble. I'm not trying to bash anyone just trying to help out the new people to climbing
-Zac
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calimouth
Dec 2, 2002, 9:26 PM
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yeah, don't just get a rope that fits what you need now. Unless you want to do the same routes over and over, get a rope that gives you more options.
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fixxervi6
Dec 2, 2002, 9:42 PM
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I have 3, one static asult (sp) rope for those rippin raps of briges and other things of that nature, one 50 meter dynamic, and one 60 dynamic. I love my 50 meter, if your doing climbs you know are short, they are nice, little less weight to hike in, less slack to deal with, yadda yadda, but if only one rope, then it has to be a 60 meter.
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mustclimb69
Dec 5, 2002, 10:32 PM
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Newbies should get a 60m , there more versitile. Ive heard that you can use a 60M rope on a climb taht normally requires a 50M but you cant use a 50M rope on a climb that requires a 60m.. Thats genious.
If your only buying one rope buy a 60m
TO climber
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enigma
Dec 6, 2002, 3:59 AM
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You forgot to mention thickness,my 60 meter rope is 10.5.
I think its standard,however my 70meter rope is 9.8 (got it for long routes,and multi-pitch).
Of course the British use 2 ropes,skinny ones for zig-zag routes,and to minimize rope drag.
Now hope everyone is throughly confused (just kidding).
Go with the 60meter and the 10.5.
So lets mention Brands, I have a Beal,but there are so many choices. Oh yeah, get the dry rope in case of rain.
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earsen
Dec 12, 2002, 9:15 PM
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This all has to do with intended use. If you're gonna be toproping some 45ft crag all year long, you obviously don't need a rope that's 3 times longer then what you need, unless you want to make 3 ropes out of it and save yourself time tieing toprope anchors all day. SNIP SNIP.
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parangole
Dec 13, 2002, 1:06 AM
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I have a 50 and a 60 metres hope, and i prefer the 60 one
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pbcowboy77
Dec 13, 2002, 8:47 AM
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O.K. so if your going to do one 45 foot route that's fine, but I think after a year of that same 45 foot route you might get tired of climbing it and may want to go somewhere eles. I know that you might only have 20 or 30 meter peaks around you but at that point it all about ROAD TRIPS . So for thoese that climb that 45 foot route all day long come on out to cali and I'll take you to Tahquitz where the routes are just a bit longer than 25 meters.
Oh and ya I guess thickness should be touched on 10.5 is standard any bigger and you'll be wanting to grind out your belay device. Some people like to go thinner. Personally I don't suggest going below 10mm. My next rope I buy is going to be a 10.2 or maybey a 10, but that's only beacuse I've been doing multi-pitch speed acents(not trying to break records), and weight is a factor. But if your climbing on a single line don't go under a 10mm, any thinner is for twin or double rope climbing.
Oh and by the way is this helping anyone trying to decide on thier first rope, or am I typing and getting carpul tunnel syndrome (sp?) for nothing?
-Zac
[ This Message was edited by: pbcowboy77 on 2002-12-13 00:49 ]
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jdean
Dec 13, 2002, 12:31 PM
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I have one of the Sterling Nitro 9.6mm (60m) and love it. It is the smoothest clipping rope I have ever had the pleasure of climbing on.
M@
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lazide
Dec 13, 2002, 2:10 PM
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Yeah - after all, you could NEVER want to climb the day after you get rained off the rock
Personally, I won't get anything but a dry treated lead rope anymore. Its one thing for a static haul line or something, but unless you like sitting around twiddling your thumbs in the 8 hours of perfect weather you have had in the last two days because your ropes got soaked, dry is the way to go.
But hey, not like it ever rains, eh?
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tcollins
Dec 13, 2002, 2:45 PM
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I bought a rope this past year because I couldn't pass up the deal. There was a 50m non dry Blue Water rope for sale on REI's outlet site for $65 and I had a $50 gift certificate. So I paid $15 for it. A great deal in my mind. It also turned out to be a dry rope when they sent it to me. For the areas I climbed it was rare this past summer for me to really need a 60m. Now that I have goals of climbing longer and larger routes I'm thinking of picking up a 60m, but it really wasn't an issue for me. Just make sure you don't put yourself in a position where you need one and it's too late.
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