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mihir
Jul 17, 2010, 3:31 AM
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I recently discovered that the reverso3 can perform all the tasks of gri gri in addition to functions on small diameter ropes. It can act as a rappel device,and in auto block mode functions better than gri gri.Its also light weight and supports two ropes simultaneously.
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avalon420
Jul 17, 2010, 3:40 AM
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No, just no.
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mihir
Jul 17, 2010, 3:48 AM
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plz explain...
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jeepnphreak
Jul 17, 2010, 4:16 AM
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mihir wrote: plz explain... You explain Im watching the paper to see when you get in to the obits. If what Im imagining is correct as to how you are using the reverso3 than your just a moron. But I would like you to further explain to me the nature of your setup so I can be sure that I m picturing things incorrectly.
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billcoe_
Jul 17, 2010, 5:08 AM
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I vote no too......
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clc
Jul 17, 2010, 5:11 AM
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Mihir, you obviously have never really used either device much. If you had you would realize how off you are.
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avalon420
Jul 17, 2010, 5:11 AM
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mihir wrote: please explain... Breaking my own rule (PLEASE read my signature), only because i enjoy Darwinism. 1-Gri-Gri can be used as a rappel device(read manual) 2-Reverso, Gi-Gi, Ghost, etc. do not lower "easily" 3-They are VERY different devices, and have VERY different utility. (I own a few guide plate type devices and a Gri-Gri, and use them FOR DIFFERNT TASKS) 4- You obviously havent read, and fimly understood, the instuctions and have only unfounded theory. 5-You (mihir) would probably kill some one w/ double rope techniques. Learn what you are doing THEN start "thinking"
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mihir
Jul 17, 2010, 5:43 AM
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If reverso is used in autoblock mode it acts as a gri gri.(even if you let go your brake hand it locks off) (It can also be used to back up while jummaring) I havent faced any problems when lowering with the reverso.
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mihir
Jul 17, 2010, 5:49 AM
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i do not say gri gri cannot be used to rappel but it cannot be used to lower a climber using 2 ropes( double ropes or half ropes) also it cannot be used safely on 9mm ropes.The manual says it. So reverso is better. I aint gonna die...
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avalon420
Jul 17, 2010, 5:52 AM
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mihir wrote: If reverso is used in autoblock mode it acts as a gri gri.(even if you let go your brake hand it locks off) (It can also be used to back up while jummaring) I havent faced any problems when lowering with the reverso. OK, then please, enlighten me, how would YOU lower a LEADER (not second) to the ground W your Reverso in auot block mode? Not impossible but certainly not simple (or recomended by Petzl)
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mihir
Jul 17, 2010, 5:54 AM
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attach the reverso at the anchor in auto block and lower him using a carabiner for leverage...(its recommended by petzl)
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avalon420
Jul 17, 2010, 6:01 AM
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mihir wrote: attach the reverso at the anchor in auto block and lower him using a carabiner for leverage...(its recommended by petzl) What part of LEAD CLIMBER not SECOND do you not understand?
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Bolter
Jul 17, 2010, 6:02 AM
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NO NO NO. The reverso does not replace the GRIGRI. Reverso isn't used for leading in autobloc mode !! It is like the ATC for lead belaying.
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avalon420
Jul 17, 2010, 6:03 AM
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And no Petzl does not recommend belaying a leader in auto block mode.
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mihir
Jul 17, 2010, 6:08 AM
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ya that may be the case but still it can be used.Have tried it successfully.Just needed 2 lockers instead of one.
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clc
Jul 17, 2010, 6:14 AM
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mihir is full of BS or a fool. Perhaps climbing isn't your game?
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avalon420
Jul 17, 2010, 6:18 AM
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mihir wrote: ya that may be the case but still it can be used.Have tried it successfully.Just needed 2 lockers instead of one. Who is dumber? The complete and obvious moron , or the guy arguing with him? Please stop theorizing before you drop a climber onto and an innocent bystander. Good bye..... EDIT TO SAY: "I bought an 8mm static lin for HAULING and RAPELLING, can I use it for top roping?" After reading your other thread, your incompetents (amongst other things) is blatantly obvious.
(This post was edited by avalon420 on Jul 17, 2010, 6:30 AM)
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brokesomeribs
Jul 17, 2010, 8:04 AM
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avalon420 wrote: mihir wrote: ya that may be the case but still it can be used.Have tried it successfully.Just needed 2 lockers instead of one. Who is dumber? The complete and obvious moron , or the guy arguing with him? Please stop theorizing before you drop a climber onto and an innocent bystander. Good bye..... EDIT TO SAY: "I bought an 8mm static lin for HAULING and RAPELLING, can I use it for top roping?" After reading your other thread, your incompetents (amongst other things) is blatantly obvious. Incompetence.
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healyje
Jul 17, 2010, 8:23 AM
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First you ask about TRing on an 8m static line and now this. This is another case where a beginner shouldn't think too much for themselves and just focus on mastering the basics as they are. It's also another time where it would be far better if beginners were not exposed to the now ubiquitous autoblock belay devices. By and large beginners should just forget about that aspect of the device.
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lrossi
Jul 17, 2010, 2:04 PM
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mihir wrote: If reverso is used in autoblock mode it acts as a gri gri.(even if you let go your brake hand it locks off) You're talking about how the Reverso3 replaces the GriGri, yet you don't even know how to use a GriGri. Show me where in the manual it says you should let ever let go of your brake hand.
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dan2see
Jul 17, 2010, 2:30 PM
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I'm outa here! See you when I back from the hills. ...
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suprasoup
Jul 17, 2010, 2:41 PM
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Good call. There's no sense in talking to a dead man.
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Gmburns2000
Jul 17, 2010, 2:46 PM
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are you people all frigging idiots? this was clearly T0 from the start!!!
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