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dynosore
Feb 10, 2011, 2:08 PM
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If you had to do "countless hours" of research to realize that starting a small business is hard work, I humbly suggest you are a bit short on experience. Get some more experience in the business world then revisit this. Also, you're going to need 10-20% capital saved to get a commercial loan, if you can get one at all in this economic climate. Not trying to be a downer, just harsh reality.
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airscape
Feb 10, 2011, 2:20 PM
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dynosore wrote: If you had to do "countless hours" of research to realize that starting a small business is hard work, I humbly suggest you are a bit short on experience. Get some more experience in the business world then revisit this. Also, you're going to need 10-20% capital saved to get a commercial loan, if you can get one at all in this economic climate. Not trying to be a downer, just harsh reality.
Please see date of op
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dynosore
Feb 10, 2011, 2:28 PM
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Ah yes, night of the living thread.....
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cracklover
Feb 10, 2011, 4:01 PM
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guangzhou wrote: So, you ever start your gym? How is it going? Was it worth it?
Forums : Profile : brandon_loves_2fly
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He can't hear you...
GO
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Lbrombach
Feb 10, 2011, 4:16 PM
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[quote "brandon_loves_2fly"]does anybody how much traffic is need in order to be profitable? Im in southern Utah and yes, you can climb outdoors 9 months out of the year, but many prospective climbers dont hit the cliffs due to their own inexperience. Thats where me and my gym come into play, a controlled climbing enviroment. Along with all the birthday parties, corporate team-builder programs, and others, I'll do just fine, I feel the the outdoor scene will be more of a help than a hinderance.[/quote]
I'd also offer training and guide service. My $.02, but you've probably thought of that.
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airscape
Feb 10, 2011, 4:51 PM
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Lbrombach wrote: [quote "brandon_loves_2fly"]does anybody how much traffic is need in order to be profitable? Im in southern Utah and yes, you can climb outdoors 9 months out of the year, but many prospective climbers dont hit the cliffs due to their own inexperience. Thats where me and my gym come into play, a controlled climbing enviroment. Along with all the birthday parties, corporate team-builder programs, and others, I'll do just fine, I feel the the outdoor scene will be more of a help than a hinderance.[/quote] I'd also offer training and guide service. My $.02, but you've probably thought of that.
hmmm yes.
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guangzhou
Feb 11, 2011, 1:00 AM
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cracklover wrote: guangzhou wrote: So, you ever start your gym? How is it going? Was it worth it? Forums : Profile : brandon_loves_2fly Registered: Jan 27, 2005, 8:52 PM Last Logon: Nov 21, 2009, 12:41 AM He can't hear you... GO
Didn't know I could see the last log-on. Oh well, wanted to see how things went.
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Khoi
Feb 11, 2011, 7:19 AM
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Well have any climbing gym opened up in southern Utah since 2005? That might hint at the answer.
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guangzhou
Feb 11, 2011, 8:16 AM
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I don't live in Utah, and to be honest, I don't need to know bad enough to research it.
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camhead
Feb 11, 2011, 1:03 PM
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quick googling shows that there is no climbing gym in St. George, Utah, which is the only city in Southern Utah here anyone would even consider building one.
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mandyjune
Feb 11, 2011, 9:36 PM
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I can't imagine all the costs and maintenance that must go into opening one up...Keep us posted on your progress though.
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matterunomama
Feb 12, 2011, 10:58 PM
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mandyjune wrote: I can't imagine all the costs and maintenance that must go into opening one up...Keep us posted on your progress though.
There is no progress!! He asked the original question in 2005.
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mandyjune
Feb 14, 2011, 7:48 PM
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oops sorry about that!
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rschap
Feb 20, 2011, 5:44 PM
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camhead wrote: quick googling shows that there is no climbing gym in St. George, Utah, which is the only city in Southern Utah here anyone would even consider building one.
There is a gym in St. George.
http://www.paragonadventure.com/thespot/
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TGrohne
Mar 9, 2013, 9:53 PM
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Does anybody have any insight into the annualized gross revenue of large climbing gym in a mid-sized city, say @ 100,000 people?
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guangzhou
Mar 10, 2013, 2:25 AM
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Yes, but good luck getting someone to share it with you. Most climbing gyms are not publicly traded, so we don't need to share our profits with you.
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notapplicable
Mar 10, 2013, 9:35 PM
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TGrohne wrote: Does anybody have any insight into the annualized gross revenue of large climbing gym in a mid-sized city, say @ 100,000 people?
You have to pay for that information. Most of the wall manufacturers sell "consulting packages" with that kind of info if you're interested.
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jomagam
Mar 11, 2013, 5:04 AM
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TGrohne wrote: Does anybody have any insight into the annualized gross revenue of large climbing gym in a mid-sized city, say @ 100,000 people?
Depends if the city is Boulder, CO or Flint, MI.
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guangzhou
Mar 12, 2013, 3:37 AM
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All the good roads in Flint lead out, that for sure.
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rschap
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I can tell you that my mid sized gym in a city with 140,000 is doing better than breaking even but not by much. We've owned it for 3 years now and have turned it around pretty well. Everything depends where you are and how you do it.
(This post was edited by rschap on Mar 23, 2013, 1:13 AM)
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