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squierbypetzl
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Mar 2, 2011, 6:35 AM
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Taking some friends out to climb today, I noticed that a couple of them were very possesive of their harness. They perhaps weren't "rude" but they were definitely irked when someone else asked to borrow their harness, even if they weren't presently wearing it.
I have 3 harnesses and have been teaching people to climb for years, so I'm not real particular about other people using my stuff, but I am reluctant about sharing my main climbing harness (petzl corax) with others. Anyone else get this feeling?
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Kartessa
Mar 2, 2011, 6:44 AM
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Yup... I have an ugly/cheapo harness that I use as a loaner, but my main one is mine.
Kinda like climbing shoes, there's just some things you don't want other people touching.
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MidnightR
Mar 2, 2011, 10:17 AM
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I don't mind people using most of my stuff. It's just my shoes I prefer to keep to myself, but then no one ever wants to borrow your shoes anyway.
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airscape
Mar 2, 2011, 10:26 AM
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I hate it when people want to use my chalk.
People seem to think chalk is a free for all no need for asking thing.
I doughnut want other peoples sweaty claws in mah chalk. Not even to menton oozy flappers.
Also shoes.
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airscape
Mar 2, 2011, 10:28 AM
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Harness is also kind of a personal item. But i'm not too concerned.
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airscape
Mar 2, 2011, 10:29 AM
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Also:
Get your own fucking nalgene, you dehydrated prick.
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climbingtrash
Mar 2, 2011, 12:16 PM
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Sum tymes a good idea it's knot...
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Gmburns2000
Mar 2, 2011, 12:49 PM
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I don't really like sharing my harness, but mainly because once it is on I keep it on for the day (taking crap breaks aside).
I have shared my harness, though, and my shoes, and other people's harnesses, and other people's shoes, and chalk, and gear, and water, and snacks, etc.
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mitchy
Mar 2, 2011, 3:03 PM
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i like to share my sandwich.
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spikeddem
Mar 2, 2011, 3:03 PM
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Assuming they weren't using it when I was planning on using it, why would I care?
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wonderwoman
Mar 2, 2011, 3:09 PM
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The only thing that I won't share is my helmet. I have it adjusted to fit my teeny tiny head. I've only found one helmet that fits my head, and if it gets unadjusted it takes me forever to get it right again.
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ChalkIsCheap
Mar 2, 2011, 5:08 PM
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My main harness and shoes are for my use only but any older harness and shoes are fair game to anyone. If it has been replaced then there isn't an issue if it gets more wear. I don't want someone killing my pristine edges by crappy footwork.
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spikeddem
Mar 2, 2011, 5:09 PM
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ChalkIsCheap wrote: My main harness and shoes are for my use only but any older harness and shoes are fair game to anyone. If it has been replaced then there isn't an issue if it gets more wear. I don't want someone killing my pristine edges by crappy footwork.
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olympicmtnboy
Mar 2, 2011, 5:20 PM
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I guess it depends on the situation. If I'm out to climb and I only brought one harness, chances are I'm using it. If I took it off for lunch or a bathroom break, I'm going to put it on again soon and climb. If I loan you my harness at that point I'm sacrificing my own climbing time for you to climb because you didn't bring a harness. So it's not a personal problem with the harness, it's just you cutting in line to climb while I can't.
If I'm taking a new person out and I know in advance, I have no problem loaning my harness, generally my old/spare one but in some cases my main one if it fits better or something.
Alternatively if someone wants to borrow my gear for a weekend or something, I kind of expect them to at least have shoes and a harness as those are the first things one gets if they are serious about climbing. If you don't have those you either better be going out with a much more experienced friend, or you might not know enough to take care of my gear yet or you might get yourself hurt using it.
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Mar 2, 2011, 5:33 PM
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olympicmtnboy wrote: I guess it depends on the situation. If I'm out to climb and I only brought one harness, chances are I'm using it. If I took it off for lunch or a bathroom break, I'm going to put it on again soon and climb. If I loan you my harness at that point I'm sacrificing my own climbing time for you to climb because you didn't bring a harness. So it's not a personal problem with the harness, it's just you cutting in line to climb while I can't. If I'm taking a new person out and I know in advance, I have no problem loaning my harness, generally my old/spare one but in some cases my main one if it fits better or something. Alternatively if someone wants to borrow my gear for a weekend or something, I kind of expect them to at least have shoes and a harness as those are the first things one gets if they are serious about climbing. If you don't have those you either better be going out with a much more experienced friend, or you might not know enough to take care of my gear yet or you might get yourself hurt using it.
Letting people borrow my harness while I am there is not a big deal to me. However, my shoes are off limits.
Also, as far letting someone borrow my gear for the weekend; other than a piece of webbing which is currently out on loan and I have not yet gotten back, I would never let someone take my gear for the weekend.
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happiegrrrl
Mar 2, 2011, 5:43 PM
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I taught a person to climb and let her use my older harness until she got one for herself. Not a problem. I have seen friends on the carriage road(Gunks) who didn't have their gear, and let them use my harness to run a TR we had up(they climbed in approach shoes). No problem. I am not that possessive on the matter, I guess, but it doesn't happen often.
Shoes? I would only let a good friend or family member use them and only for TR and take em off when not actively climbing. If a partner needed to borrow for the day, I guess I would suggest they wear socks, just because...it's foot sweat! ewwww
Lend out my rack? Only to someone I know well enough that they can't just evaporate into the sunset.
Guide books? While in JTree, I have lent my West book out to near strangers camping nearby. For days. So far it has always come back. But I sort of feel that one is playing the dice; eventually it will disappear if I continue to do that.
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sp115
Mar 2, 2011, 5:44 PM
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climbingtrash wrote: Sum tymes a good idea it's knot...
Now that's some funny shit.
As to the OP's question, I suggest you wear a diaper under the harness. No one will ever ask to borrow it again, I promise.
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jbro_135
Mar 2, 2011, 5:44 PM
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spikeddem wrote: Assuming they weren't using it when I was planning on using it, why would I care?
Exactly. Even if I am planning on using it, if it's someone I like and we're just cragging I will gladly take turns or something.
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jcrew
Mar 2, 2011, 6:05 PM
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any practicing climber will have an older loner harness, and any gumby won't have heard of Todd Skinner
happiegrrrl wrote: Guide books? While in JTree, I have lent my West book out.....
that was cool, thanks terrie.
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swoopee
Mar 2, 2011, 7:48 PM
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I don't really mind anyone using my harness but I usually put it on and leave it on. I do sometimes carry an extra one to loan out.
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happiegrrrl
Mar 2, 2011, 8:33 PM
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jcrew wrote: any practicing climber will have an older loner harness, and any gumby won't have heard of Todd Skinner happiegrrrl wrote: Guide books? While in JTree, I have lent my West book out..... that was cool, thanks terrie.
Did I lend to you? I just remember the time I thought YOUR guidebook was mine and took it back to NY with me....oops.
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milesenoell
Mar 2, 2011, 10:55 PM
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squierbypetzl wrote: Taking some friends out to climb today, I noticed that a couple of them were very possesive of their harness. They perhaps weren't "rude" but they were definitely irked when someone else asked to borrow their harness, even if they weren't presently wearing it. I have 3 harnesses and have been teaching people to climb for years, so I'm not real particular about other people using my stuff, but I am reluctant about sharing my main climbing harness (petzl corax) with others. Anyone else get this feeling?
None of my friends climb so when I get out it's either by dragging a friend who I don't expect to have gear or with somebody I met at the crag in which case they have their own gear. Sharing some pro at the crag doesn't bother me at all, but I'd have to know somebody pretty well to let them take off with anything.
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blueeyedclimber
Mar 3, 2011, 4:05 PM
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I don't climb with people who don't own a harness. Problem solved. 
Josh
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ChalkIsCheap
Mar 3, 2011, 4:57 PM
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spikeddem wrote: ChalkIsCheap wrote: My main harness and shoes are for my use only but any older harness and shoes are fair game to anyone. If it has been replaced then there isn't an issue if it gets more wear. I don't want someone killing my pristine edges by crappy footwork. Why can't anyone borrow your harness?
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